US can ban Chinese cars from the US market. But all other markets are still lost.
You know, all the reasons I didn’t want a Chinese car are now also present in American cars…
We need to start raiding junkyards for old cars, and working on making electric conversions without corporate cloud connections and integrated spyware more accessible.
Or, and hear me out on this, push our useless elected officials to fucking do something for the people instead of the highest bidder.
They’re all bought, pushing them only gets pointless promises during campaigns that will be ignored as soon as they get your vote.
Whether it’s a pedophile MAGAt, or that piece of shit Jeffries, they’re all a joke…
And it’s not funny.
I paid a 15% baked in tariff on my non us manufactured electric car. Worth every penny.
GM has never made a good car. Ford forgot they are a car company. Fuck em all.
Save their asses again, taxpayers
Hey, since they Big keeping saying cars don’t matter, and nobody buys them, and nobody buys EVs, they should just ban Chinese SUVs and trucks, right? Right?!
In other news, Coke asks Congress to ban Pepsi.
I ask congress to ban congress. Anar hy is preferable to fascism.
What is stopping someone from flying to mexico, buying an EV there, and driving it back and getting it registered?
Some states may have safety regs, but some mid-america states don’t seem to give a shit about what you drive where.You would have to pay the 100% tarriff on a Chinese EV because you’d be “importing” it. You likely wouldn’t be able to register it in any state without proving the import duty had been paid.
And assuming you flew under the radar and somehow registered it without paying, the Feds would get access to the registration records and the CBP would eventually come after you.
Registration. If they haven’t gone through all the National Highway Safety Administration tests, it’s not able to be registered (or was a while ago, I haven’t kept up). A couple of decades ago, there was a billionaire who bought a couple extra supercars and had them destroyed by testing, so that his would be road-legal.
Eventually the US auto market will be eaten alive. Lower cost vehicles cannibalize US manufacturers revenue and their business model requires large revenues, even when profits are low or nill.
The reason to be concerned is Chinese vehicles are equipped with all the sensors necessary for a distributed spy network. I don’t think there’s any way to guarantee data stays in the US. Chevy, Ford, etc will use this for reason to not change, given the government has an interest in keeping out Chinese vehicles.
The domestic automakers all have the same shit. Why would the Chinese go to all the trouble to build and sell cars here to run espionage, when they can just compromise a prebuilt distributed mobile camera and microphone service (aka all modern cars)?
I’m more okay with China spying on me than US companies. China doesn’t really have a way or motive to effect my life.
They (say they are) are worried about national security. Like they don’t want it being able to somehow map all military bases or whatever.
That’s really a tall tale they are trying to sell though.
They don’t want a cheap competitor in the American markets and they don’t have a guarantee that Chinese companies will hand over data on a whim the way they can force American manufacturers to do.
LOL… Capitalism and Competition!.. unless it’s applied in Murica, there corporate communism is the law
I thought BYD was already banned from selling cars in the USA? Am I allowed to buy a BYD???
I was in Spain and many of the Ubers i used ended up being electric BYD seals. They felt way better than Tesla.
chicken tax 2.0
you will buy your 90% markup unrepairable slop cars and learn to like it
Are the Chinese EVs repairable though? And what I’ve seen of them is a bunch of gimmicky features that I don’t want.
Try repairing any modern car. Try repairing a six year old car. Without the proprietary software to interface with the car computers, there aren’t a lot.of repairs you can do on your own.
I have a 19 Volvo and a 13 Volvo. You can’t do much of anything to either without the software and a cryptographic PIN that locks the central electronics module. The only way you can access the cem is buy “renting” Volvo software. Even then, they charge for individual transactions. Want to make a key for your car? Pay for the software then pay another $250 for access to the key making module. BTW, that only permits you to make ONE key.
You’ve been locked out of your own cars for a long time now. More and more goes behind the dealer paywall over time.
They are in the way that you can purchase the parts for them from sources including the manufacturer, but also third parties. Until I have that I will not be buying EV in the US. If that expands to ICE vehicles then I will not purchase those either.
That’s at least better than modern US cars.
Still don’t want all the crazy electronics that are gonna break.
It’s better than many US cars yeah, but not most ICE cars currently on the road today. Most ICE vehicles can have a vast majority of their internal components replaced with a stop to advanced auto parts or a specialist store to buy things like an ECU. Not with Tesla however or pretty much any EV we can get here. So for EV cars here yeah that’s absolutely better than any we have here.
It makes sense. The lack of investment and development of EVs and EV manufacturing has been fully kneecapped by the American auto industry.
If China came in, the American auto industry would be destroyed overnight due to the lack of competitive vehicles.
The propaganda of “Chinese vehicles are cheap and shody” only works when people don’t have the product in front of them.
The propaganda of “Chinese vehicles are cheap and dangerous” only works when people don’t have the product in front of them.
Plus they’d have to pass whatever requirements in the US to be sold, the same ones that the ‘domestic’ manufacturers do.
Is this even a concern anymore? Haven’t we pretty much gutted any requirements that would actually matter / wouldn’t already exist in Chinese cars?
There are some American safety requirements that are based on protecting the safety of the driver at the expense of everything else that a not of cheaper vehicles might not meet.
Could you give us some examples?
One example is a strong A-Pillar on a car–the metal post to the left and right of the windshield. Most manufacturers meet the standard by making it really beefy and wide. It protects the driver from collision but makes collision more likely by obstructing the driver’s vision.
Car safety standards in the US are actively hostile to anyone outside a car.
I live in a country with Chinese vehicles, and I would say that they were, initially, a bit crappy, a little less technically safe but cheaper.
Now though they’re pretty much even, especially BYD.
This is the confident opinion of one who has never owned a Chinese vehicle!
wtf! their party is supposed to be all about capitalism and globalism.
Bruh. Where have you been?
yeah I know I should know but they just keep on beating their dead sacred cows.
