• Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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      30 天前

      I hope everyone else here just lets you keep it that way.

      Please don’t inform this person and make their life materially worse for knowing thanks.

    • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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      30 天前

      She had a severe case of postpartum psychoses and killed her kids. Went to trial and was found not guilty by every juror except a woman hating wife beater even though he admitted to having reasonable doubt, which lead to a mistrail.

      It’s a very shitty meme that makes fun of a woman’s tragedy.

      • NotSteve_@lemmy.ca
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        30 天前

        Jesus Christ, I read the wikipedia page and this meme is fucking awful. What a fucked up thing to joke about

      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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        29 天前

        you are listening to misinformation, the woman in the juror went on a SJW crusade to get her freed, because they felt “Woman needs to be not the same as men”

      • too_high_for_this@lemmy.world
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        30 天前

        A woman’s tragedy? The fuck? She strangled her three children to death. I don’t give a shit what circumstances led to it. The tragedy is the kids who were murdered and everyone who knew and loved them.

        It’s terrible that she couldn’t get the help she needed. That doesn’t make her the victim.

        • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          29 天前

          It’s terrible that she couldn’t get the help she needed.

          Yeah, funny thing about that: per the Wikipedia article on the case, there were no fewer than three attempts at inpatient care for her, one discharged her, one she refused and the third she checked herself out of.

        • CannonFodder@lemmy.world
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          30 天前

          If you had a heart attack while driving and so got into an accident and your children in the car were killed but you survived, are you a victim?

          • Test_Tickles@lemmy.world
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            29 天前

            If you were having a heart attack and deliberately accelerated and aimed your car at a group of people on the sidewalk, then you are both the victim of a heart attack and a murderer.
            Mental illness should affect where you are incarcerated and the type of treatment you get, but it doesn’t mean that you get a free pass.
            The US’s handling of incarcerated people, especially the mentally ill, is gross and malicious, but this is the choice that the voters have made. That desperately needs to be fixed, but setting a murderer free is not helping.

            Also, it’s really grotesque that stealing to feed your children, or sneaking across borders to give them a better life is worthy of jail time if you aren’t white, but if you are white then premeditated murder of your own children makes you a hero.

            • CannonFodder@lemmy.world
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              29 天前

              No. That’s entirely not the point. If you have a heart attack and so your body forces you to fall unconscious and so you get in an accident and kill your children, are you guilty? Obviously you need medical attention and cannot be allowed to drive while there is any significant chance that you might do it again.
              Nobody is suggesting that this woman should be set free - she needs to be in a secure mental treatment facility until she is safe to be in society - and possibly that will never happen.
              This has nothing to do with those other issues or skin color. It is about mental health, women’s support and post partum care.
              If you can’t wrap your head around the mental illness cause part because you have no empathy or ability to understand things you haven’t experienced, maybe think about how one’s mind can be altered with drugs/alchohol, or how hypnotism can make people do complex weird things. Our brains are a very complex chemical system and can get out of whack causing surprising results. Post partum mental illness is much more common than most people believe because of the stigma and covering it up. It needs a lot more understanding and accommodation - that recognition and support would help avoid such tragedies as this case. Your inability to understand and empathize will only make things worse.

              • Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org
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                29 天前

                Yeah, but she was fucking conscius, reasoned, premeditated and planned everything. I’d love to have a mental illness like that if it actually existed…

          • Ramsesder13te@feddit.org
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            28 天前

            What the actual fuck is this comparison? And even if thus happened to me my first thought wouldn’t be how do I get out of this wile destroying my husband’s life even more.

                • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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                  28 天前

                  They all are. What happened is the result of a combination of rampant capitalism and for-profit healthcare. The system will continue to produce results like this, and most people will ignore when it happens to poor/minority/immigrant people.

                  At least this is in the shitpost community, where most of these replies are to be expected.

            • CannonFodder@lemmy.world
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              29 天前

              She had a medical condition that caused it. Just because you’ve never had such a condition doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. The world is bigger than your experience. If you can imagine yourself having a heart attack forcing your body to stop driving and kill your kids, why can’t you imagine yourself with a mental illness that forces you to do terrible things?

              • Killer@lemmy.world
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                29 天前

                I didn’t know a medical condition can cause you to wait till your husband is out of the house to kill your 3 children

                • Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org
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                  29 天前

                  Yeaaa, like, the level of premeditation and reasoning is incompatible with a mental illness like that.

                  But hey, she’s a woman, and women can’t be bad nor commit any crimes, they’re always victims and men are always criminals, yk, totally common sense.

                  I’d love to see the reactions if she were a male and not a female.

        • Duhtocqueville@ttrpg.network
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          30 天前

          Admits to killing her kids. Argues she was not legally responsible for her actions by reason of inanity. As is typical, the insanity was super temporary and she should be free and we should just be ok with letting her go to parks and teach kids if she wants becuase she’s not guilty.

          The only reasonable result here is she is removed from normal society. If she’s criminally responsible doesn’t strike me as relevant.

        • KeithD@lemmy.nz
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          28 天前

          Definitely killed her kids. Allegedly insane enough to not be able to be found guilty (which would still wind up with her locked up). And it was the state’s burden to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she was sane enough to be found guilty. That’s what the jury needed to deliberate and come to a consensus on, but didn’t quite.

        • dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net
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          30 天前

          She admitted to it, the question is whether she is criminally responsible or if her postpartum psychosis constitutes mitigating circumstances.

          • CannonFodder@lemmy.world
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            30 天前

            She may have lied when she ‘admitted it’. She hasn’t been found guilty in a court of law. It’s still only ‘allegedly’.

            • calcopiritus@lemmy.world
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              28 天前

              She admitted it in court.

              Not being found guilty for it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

              If you’re at a carnival where one of the games is throwing axes at a board. And somehow a child suddenly teleported in front of the board after throwing the axe, you might not be guilty for it. But you still killed the kid.

              • Ramsesder13te@feddit.org
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                28 天前

                Because there is undeniable evidence and you’re lawyer tells you the only way out of this is to claim you were neglected.

  • Naive@lemmy.world
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    28 天前

    Who is on the left? I am not an American so I don’t know about her. I know about the right one cuz he is so famous.

        • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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          28 天前

          She killed her kids and has been in a very high-profile murder trial. 11 of the 12 jurors wanted to find her not guilty due to her mental state, but the last one held out and there was a mistrial. There’s some other stuff going around about the holdout juror and it’s a huge fucking mess, and we don’t yet know what’s happening next. There’s a hearing tomorrow that’s gonna be a shitshow.

            • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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              28 天前

              While I generally agree with criticism of the “white woman true crime tragedy porn” stuff, the legal case here actually is pretty interesting. There is a legitimate debate over culpability due to mental state and the jury situation is a little bonkers.

  • chewypoops@lemmy.world
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    30 天前

    Love presenting women’s mental health controversies as a joke.

    Three children died and a family is forever destroyed. lol, amirite?

    • qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de
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      30 天前

      Love presenting politically motivated murder as a joke.

      A father of two died and a family is forever destroyed. lol, amirite?

        • Revolver1864@piefed.socialEnglish
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          29 天前

          Believe all women nerd? Well I’ll be damned lol.

          Ideally that cunt can rot in solitary confinement for the rest of he miserable child murdering life. LOL

      • Ioughttamow@fedia.io
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        30 天前

        Way to diminish his sacrifice, asshole. He said some deaths were to be expected to protect our 2nd amendment rights. RIP Neck King, Throat GOAT. Rotten soldier

    • yoshi@lemmy.today
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      30 天前

      I can’t be the only one who finds it odd that your line about what you can’t make a joke about is women’s mental health but not child rape islands.

  • KeithD@lemmy.nz
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    28 天前

    Given how much she wanted kids, that isn’t actually an appropriate picture on the left of the scale.