Google rolled out the Lake America change on Saturday, while the official US government maps are still waiting.

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    13 hours ago

    i wonder how many canadians that were sitting on the fence about de-googling are no longer sitting on that fence…

    1. start by changing your default search, google ai overviews made it useless anyways. check out duck duck go or startpage

    2. stop using google spyware browser (chrome and all chrome builds) and switch to firefox (or preferably a privacy focused fork, i.e. waterfox, librewolf

    3. learn linux… quit windows

    4. self-host your own server and run your own localized, private apps, immich instead of google photos, vaultwarden instead of password manager, jellyfin instead of netflix, etc.

    5.???

    1. profit!!!
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      9 hours ago

      The problem is, “who wants to be a computer admin?” To which Google says, “I’ll be yours (and I’ll narc on you too for ads and IC).”

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        7 hours ago

        Yeahhhhh… I was actually just thinking about this the other day, and kinda realized that a lot of people in my dad’s generation cosplayed as lawn maintenance landscapers in their spare time, I larp sysadmin

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    16 hours ago

    I’m fucking done with Google Maps and their brown-nosing bullshit. Disabled it (can’t uninstall easily, otherwise I would). MapQuest from now on (or one of the other alternatives that has a spine).

    Now to find a good alternative to Gmail (and go through that migration hassle). I’ve tried Proton Mail in the past. It was okay, but didn’t blow me away.

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      15 hours ago

      Shizuku, activated with USB debugging (if you can’t/won’t root), and Canta will let you fully remove Gmaps (and any other google shitware) pretty easily.

      I even used it to remove that Android System SafetyCore app that apparently keeps reinstalling itself if you uninstall via normal methods and it hasn’t come back after roughly a year since removal so I’d say it’s a pretty effective and simple method to set up, just make sure to read the notes the Canta dev added for certain apps to make sure you aren’t going to break something you may still want.

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        16 hours ago

        I use Organic Maps and CoMaps mainly. Sometime Kagi Maps and FlockHopper (not sure what I under the hood of that one though). I prefer OSM generally.

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    17 hours ago

    So fwiw, the change was made official and updated in GNIS the day it changed on Google Maps, which uses GNIS behind the scenes. That same day, USGS said the name had taken effect in GNIS but that it was waiting for its maps to visually update.

    I think this is a product of Google’s infrastructure being faster to automatically update with GNIS changes. The fact they didn’t step in to override it already shows that they’re willing to go along with this; I don’t think the fact it changed before USGS adds any significance to that bootlicking.

    That is, I don’t assume Google manually intervened to make this happen faster.

    Still, fuck Google Maps. I’m glad people are waking up to how this level of hegemony over maps gives corporations too much power.

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      15 hours ago

      I keep seeing this around. I’ve got friends at Google who have shared screenshots about the manual pull request (code change) that was made to update the name. They even have an internal shortlink pointing to that manual change since it’s so dumb

    • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      17 hours ago

      I wish this was talked about more. So much hay being made about this on the assumption that Google maintains their own database of locations instead of pulling from sources like GNIS like they actually do.

      Fuck Google, but we don’t need to make shit up to hate them. In fact, making shit up makes us seem crazy and hurts our position.

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        9 hours ago

        They could have easily made the effort to not change the name, don’t defend them. This isn’t some nothing change, they are very aware of what they are doing or not doing.

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        10 hours ago

        Where’s this fucking energy for Google removing sideloading from Android, for example.

        To be fair, the average person doesn’t know what sideloading is, while everyone will look at the map and see the changed name

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        It reminds me of this conspiracy that was circulating a few months back that Apple Maps had “deleted” cities and places in Lebanon to culturally erase it for Israel’s invasion.

        In reality (which you could see by e.g. looking at Reddit posts from a few years ago), Apple Maps’ coverage of Lebanon was absolute unusable dogshit the entire time. There were complaints about how it wasn’t even usable for basic navigation in Beirut. The city of Tyre (which was misspelled “Tyr”) was still there despite being one of the hardest-hit cities by Israel’s invasion.

        Which was, to be fair, staggeringly incompetent, but it was provably true. Apple Maps’ coverage sucked so badly that, at a surface level, it looked like somebody took an erase tool to a competent map.

        I think a lot of people don’t realize how automated corporate maps applications are. Which can be a weakness for crowd-sourced data like OpenStreetMap when there aren’t enough contributors, but that democratization is also a huge benefit that anyone can see and fix issues. The main parts of Google Maps that aren’t automated are points of interest, and those are kept up-to-date thanks to the network effect where e.g. business owners see value in maintaining their information or users feel like they’re helping out (read: doing free labor for a trillion-dollar corporation).

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          It’s just a bit silly considering how these companies have been leveraging publicly available information and how automated most of their systems actually are. It’s part of why customer service at many of them (not Apple so much I guess) is absolutely abysmal and they basically do their best to try to avoid to having a human being in the customer service loop at all. Automating almost all software and removing the human element has literally been the name of the game for 20 years at least.

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    17 hours ago

    Today is GrapheneOS day for me.

    And if they ever try to take that away, I’ll get a fucking dumb flip phone and that’ll be that.

    Open source is critical to our future.

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      17 hours ago

      Mine arrived today. Ironic.

      Also ironic that I had to buy a pixel, but i needed a new phone so I wanted something that gos and other distros could run on

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        16 hours ago

        Oh don’t apologize for buying their subsidized data collection devices and then completely disabling the reason they subsidize the devices 😂

        It’s a kick in the nuts to Google every time GrapheneOS is installed.

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          13 hours ago

          Single source hardware is a security liability. If Google does something to the hardware or firmware, the GrapheneOS project would be screwed. Google has already hobbled AOSP.

          We cannot overly depend on Google’s or any one company’s good will.

          I think GrapheneOS should think about gradually steering the project toward a basket of hardware companies. Shifting to Motorola is necessary in the near term, but the whole situation with Google’s behavior needs to be a wake up call.

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    17 hours ago

    I’d guess the calculus was something like:

    Our users don’t want this thing

    Fuck em, we’re a monopoly

    the famously petty would-be dictator wants this thing

    Do what he says, he could really hit our bottom line if he wants to

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    17 hours ago

    What is utter horse shit is that they care about compatibility except for this.

    The fact that it broke tons of Canadian websites and Google neither cares nor bothered to investigate shows their priority of sucking up to the Trump admin over everything else.

    Change your default search engine, delete Google apps that you can (I need fucking the Google app for authentication…), create a non-gmail account and start migrating to it (yes this sucks, yes it takes a long time to finish, there’s lots of degoogling info on this out there now).

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    18 hours ago

    There’s a reason they removed “Don’t be Evil” from their corporate tenets. The almighty dollar comes first to them and they refuse to risk angering The Orange One.

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      10 hours ago

      No, no no no no. They’re not afraid of angering him.

      This is the Nerd Reich and they had front seats to his inauguration. THEY are the evil.

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      13 hours ago

      Assuming they changed anything about their ideals and didn’t just think “hey does having this here reduce suspicion as intended or raise it when it begs the question of how a tech company could even be evil when they aren’t named ‘Microsoft’?”