I mean the rich are building bunkers so the bottom Fallout 1 death screen is appropriate if you know the lore of the vaults/bunkers.
If the rich end up in doomsday bunkers while the rest of us have to deal with the shit world they ruined for the rest of us, we better make it our mission to… plug any holes we find, if you know what I mean. Not suggesting violence that could get me banned or whatever, just make sure that the outside air don’t get in. Public service.
I’m in my 50s, I’ve always expected the desolation and scavenging.
Terminator (1984), Terminator 2 (1991), and The Matrix (1999) have entered the chat…
Don’t forget Mad Max
Soylent Green. Alphaville. Logan’s Run. A Clockwork Orange.
Planet of the Apes.
I hate every chimp I see, from chimpan-a to shimpan-z
Terminator: “War is inevitable.”
Terminator 2: “Actually, maybe not.”
Terminator 3: “Oh yeah, never mind, there it is.”
Terminator: Arnie is the bad guy
Terminator 2: no wait, the first one made him a huge star so he’s the hero now!
Terminator 3: Quick, let’s squeeze one last one out before he becomes The Governator in a few months!
I thought Terminator 4 was pretty good, but I like that you didn’t even give an opinion on Terminator 5
Would be pretty unfair of me anyway, since I’ve only seen the first two myself 😁
MelodiousFunk: They made a Terminator 3?
Apparently 🤷🏻
that’s a cool chat. I’d smoke a blunt with em
I do miss feeling optimistic about the future
Don’t worry, we were fucked since before you were born. We overshot our ecosystem long, long ago, it just takes decades for the consequences to catch up.
You’re just in the wrong country, aligned with the wrong set of politics, speaking the wrong language.
The future isn’t American anymore. The future is Mexican and Brazilian. The future is African. The future is Chinese.
Climate change doesn’t stop at the border, lol.
The ability to endure it and survive - even thrive - in the face of it will vary heavily based on national leadership.
Tell that to the vast swathes of the globe, including China, due to face lethal wet bulb temperatures within the next 10-20 years. Which, along with mass death, means massive breadbasket failures on multiple fronts. Ain’t politicking our way out of this one, chief.
lethal wet bulb temperatures
Europe wants to rebalance trade with Beijing, but can’t quit Chinese air conditioners
One country is producing all of the world’s air conditioners. I wonder if they’re in a better position to endure wet-bulb temperatures than their peers.
Ain’t politicking our way out of this one, chief.
They absolutely can and will. This is a country that can build the infrastructure to keep people from dying of overheating. What’s more, this is the country that can export that infrastructure globally, such that its allies will see improved survivability. And that will have cascading knock-on effects.
The ability to survive climate change is the ability to operate as a global center of gravity.
I think you missed the ‘massive breadbasket failures’ part of my comment. You can’t air condition a field of rice. Well, you could, but good luck trying that on the scale needed to feed everyone once crops begin to fail globally.
Kind of, I guess. Depends on if there any animals larger than a cat left after the temperature change stops and levels off.
Depends if we can adapt them quickly enough to survive.
Brazil has been dismantling our biotech sector for 20 years now, so I’m not optimist, but YMMV.
Anyway, I’m more optimist on avoiding problem than on dealing with it.
Yeah just do your best and help others while you’re here, lol.
High temperatures don’t preclude large lifeforms. Just ask the dinosaurs.
But you need the ability to adapt at speed and scale for the entire ecological colony. You can’t rely on biomes that cater exclusively to a handful of apex predators.
The rate of change is faster than any in the planet’s history, I don’t have high hopes for many species surviving.
The planet has been undergoing the 6th global extinction event in its history for over 30,000 years. During this time period, humanity has flourished even as millions of other species have died out.
Doubtful. Climate change as well as its economic impact will affect most of these areas especially hard
These are all just the optimist’s dream. Following that, you could imagine “how people in the 2020’s see the future:” and then put the AI techno-optimist view of a post-work utopia where robots do our bidding.
lol ignoring the entire Cold War
Finally, all the time in the world to read my books.
I’m reminded of the futurama time lapse when Fry is first frozen. Destroy, rebuild, destroy, rebuild, and so on…
In the year 252525…
Oh hey! It’s me! I’m people in the 2020s!!
This is exactly what those who are broadly portrayed as visionaries want.
Unfortunately, it never seems to have dawned on the general public that those who market themselves this way were never the visionaries.
Take Dennis Ritchie, for example, one of the original creators of C, who died just days before Steve Jobs: The media went out of their way to emphasize what a loss humanity had suffered, while failing to acknowledge that someone had died to whom humanity owes a great deal. They celebrated only the greedy capitalist who knew how to market a technology, but not at all the rather humble man who made a tremendous contribution without enriching himself at the expense of the common good.
That was a long time ago, but today’s world is still exactly the same - it even got way worse from there: no recognition for those who actually achieve great things, but only for those who step into the spotlight and thus appear to be the ones to whom humanity owes something.
In my view, this encapsulates everything one needs to know about our time—the absurdity of charlatans desperately wanting to be billionaires or even trillionaires.
This attitude has nothing to do with the real world, and it is a hubris that no halfway decent person would ever presume to have—yet humanity is ruled by exactly these megalomaniacal monsters because it collectively allows it.
So we are ruled by the worst that humanity has to offer—by unscrupulous opportunists who live only for themselves, have no sense of community, and have set up a system of undeserved triumph in such a way that only their own despicable kind can follow them.
It is a system that is directed against humanity itself.
I’d love a site full of sources of the real inventors of shit I can shove into the faces of people who think fucking musk is actual iron man 🙄🙄🙄🙄 the disinformation is so strong.
I’m afraid that’s just as hard—if not impossible—as figuring out which artists created all those iconic Disney characters. That’s just how soulless corporations are.
I could never handle building a site like that myself because just doing the research would be so absolutely depressing.
All of them are dystopias
Change my mind
On looks alone first one has car infrastructure, public infrastructure, healthy amount of artistic marketing and high quality housing.
For current US, from descriptions I see, that’s actually utopia. xD
The futuristic ones ignore the fact that all of the homeless and destitute are not present because they’ve either been enslaved, or they’re relegated to the old decrepit previous version of the city, as the Sylvester Stallone Judge Dredd showed us.
Edit: Altered Carbon and even The Fifth Element demonstrated this too. You saw the poor living below the smog line.
Counterexamples:
How people in the 50s saw the future: GlobalCommunistDystopia.jpg
How people in the 80s saw the future: PostNuclearHolocaust.jpg
How people in the 2000s saw the future: WarAgainstTerror.jpg
How people in the 2020s see the future: [email protected]
