New Outlook takes 10 seconds to show an email after clicking a Windows 11 notification. Outlook Classic does it instantly.
This is the same idiot misrepresenting WhatsApp ram usage. His job is to inflame, not inform.
The new Outlook has been a shit show since day 1. When they first released it it couldn’t load PSTs, it couldn’t use COM add ins, it didn’t link correctly with Teams. You couldn’t correctly add shared calendars. The list just keeps on going, and all the things it fell short on was all stuff that business users heavily relied on.
Granted some of them need to go, but it’s like they didn’t even pay attention to what was used.
“I have two Microsoft Outlooks and neither one is working”
What gets me still is our work using MS SSO for all our work credentials but it always tells me to “open outlook and select displayed numerical code” to sign in on my phone but never once has it actually worked even if I’m literally sitting at the desktop with Outlook open on the screen. I always have to select “more options” and have them text or email a verification code.
Sounds to me like your Authenticator app link was broken. Had that happen to me when I did an upgrade of my phone. The phone name stayed the same and the app was restored but the underlying link was broken. Had to completely remove it from the MS security portal and readd it.
I’m so tired of companies replacing apps with far inferior updates. If you need to rewrite, at least ensure it can do the same job.
I’m going to disagree slightly.
IMO, outlook is bloated. It has too many features that are either confusing or difficult to use. Microslop should have released a completely new mail app and given it a new providence along with modern features.
Think gmail but it would work with any email account.
Made with modern programming practices. Streamlined and zippy.
But nope.
They needed to create Outlook (new). Which they enshittified.
I fucking hate Outlook. It is stuck in the age of emails being the primary source of communication in a company. Teams isn’t any better. (Give me back slack please!!!)
But let’s be clear here: we (the users) aren’t Outlook customers. Corporate IT is. And from their standpoint, Outlook does exactly what they need it to do.
Gmail is fine for home use, but not for heavy office use. Outlook is a productivity application and needs to stay one, not just an email client.
I’m sure a lot of the bloat is due to needing to make every single thing backwards compatible due to corporations using it and building tools with it for decades.
I wonder why they are pushing so hard on new outlook. Its one of their most used products…and people REALLY dont like changes to it.
Because the manager running the program needs to justify their job.
Presumably AI.
Exactly the same as when Microsoft ditched Outlook express.
Okay, yes. That sounds like it’s a drawback, but additionally you get not being notified of meetings and looking like an asshole all the time! What a great deal!
The examples are pretty funny. Is VERY slow. Like I thought old outlook was a bit on the slow side for syncing. The videos they provide are remarkably slow in every day interactions.
The only improvement I notice is the search. But to be honest that feature couldn’t get any worse anyway.
Which is impressive because it still sucks balls. Especially when it misses items, so you need to dig through folders to find the item. Only for the subject to have the exact word you searched for and it somehow didn’t show up.
Plus the annoying top results and search results being mixed in the same view. Either just sort by time or by relevance. Don’t go mixing them together into a messy results view that’s hard to use.
They’ve calmed down a bit with it now, but there was this phase where they had those small little popups all over the place whenever they changed stuff or added something new. Sometimes even two or three of them you needed to clear just to do the damn job you booted up the infernal program for in the first place. It would drive me insane. Especially when there was something actually worth looking at, but I need to do my job first. But in order to use the tool, you needed to close those popups and once you did they were gone forever. So good job remember what it was and how to find it. Such awful UX design.
Tho Plex recently did a full screen wizard to show off their new “Discussion” feature. A feature I do not want and will never use. But I was still required to go through the slide deck on each of my devices before I could use the app again. UX is really an art and in my experience kind of a lost art for the most part these days.
We have had 5x, 10x, 100x productivity gains from AI for a year or two (or more?). Where is this reflected in Microsoft products?
100x the output of slop features and projects
nobody said the productivity gains would be on quality products. it’s quantity over quality 1000%
I have to use Outlook for work. It’s difficult or impossible to find the features that were actually useful in the new Outlook.
I still use old Outlook because at least it actually works.
It’s so, so bad. I hate it so much. It makes me angry every time I have to do it. Especially when I try to do some sort of action that’s buried 3 menus deep but it decides to sync something at that moment and just pops you out of whether the fuck you were trying to do.
Same. I will stick with old outlook as long as I can.
Even opening a task takes ten or more seconds on new outlook. What the hell is it doing that old outlook wasn’t?
Windows 11 ships with two versions of Outlook. There is Outlook Classic, the long-running Win32 desktop app built for power users, and there is the new Outlook, which Microsoft is pushing as the future of email on Windows. The newer one is built on WebView2 and is, in essence, a browser window that loads Outlook.com.
Old Outlook downloads all your stuff when you sync, so it’s immediately available when you try to look at it. New Outlook just being a wrapper around a website probably means it’s asking the server for things as you select them.
Holy fucking shit. Imagine paying millions for enterprise software for your thousands of employees, then you basically get an icon that loads a webpage
Oh that’s bullshit.
It must be really bad over there at that billion-dollar company where they can’t maintain both a website and a native app. Aww.
What the hell is it doing that old outlook wasn’t?
Eating all your ram I would guess 🤷♂️
Someone in MS saw the old Outlook, heard the complaints, and thought it was a great opportunity to lead a full rewrite and new product launch in order to get promoted.
I use Thunderbird for my stuff. I like it for personal email. Its good enough.
Both of my workplaces use Outlook, and it’s so cumbersome. Microsoft’s products do not work well on Linux/Firefox. It’s like they only test in Edge.
Tried to install and use Thunderbird the other day. Of course I need to ask an administrator to get permission to use Thunderbird as an approved app for both organizations. Not gonna happen, probably. 💀
Good thing that the new Outlook at least doesn’t force itself onto you… oh, wait
I don’t understand how people can stand this sort of software (or quality of software). The only explanation is they are hostages of the situation.
I can’t say I’ve experienced any of the problems people talk about here. I use a Mac at work so maybe that’s the difference. The old outlook was an enormous memory hog and slow AF. The new one works just fine.
That’s been Microsoft’s business strategy for decades now.
There are plenty of sites that you can check to get alternatives for everything Microslop is offering and you can’t be bothered to then it’s your own fault.
crash?
To be the biggest and most hilarious thing abut Outlook on desktop is unified Inbox.
Mobile Outlook App? Yep. Old ass Mail App? Yep. Outlook: What’s unified Inbox precious?
And with the power of AI we’re going to keep making those delays LONGER!
