It’s pretty ironic to have problems with audio not recognizing headphones… on WINDOWS.
Multi-trillion (10^12) dollar company, btw.
(Both laptops are reasonably new.)
is it time for a Windows edition of the classic Jamiroquai sound meme?
Literally, neither my PC screen works, nor does the download version of spotify work on my Win11 PC. Literally unusable garbage… Long live ubuntu for just doing what i tell it to do.
When you want to route your audio a certain way (let’s say audio recording/production or such)
Windows: oh sure, you just gotta download a shitty proprietary driver/program, get that to talk to your daw and from there on it’s…let’s hope it does what you wanna do.
Linux: You want routing options? Have some …(ALL the options)
As someone that is using RTP to send audio from and to different Linux computers, this is unfortunately an option that is getting more difficult to use as time passes. A few years ago when pulseaudio was dominating, it was trivial to just tick a few boxes, enable RTP, see a lit of devices in pasystray, and choose it with a few clicks. Now since pipewire, this is no longer possible. Sure, RTP still works, but using the command line is now mandatory, as all the GUI options have disappeared.
I still find myself reinstalling pulseaudio on most of my computers running Linux because I need RTP audio and it’s disappointing that it’s getting harder and harder to get it to work on Linux.
I’ve never used pasystray. But I regularly use qpwgraph now since I switched to pipe wire. It’s similar to the graph from qjackctl.
Yeah they now expect you to use their native protocol for sharing audio on the network.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PipeWire#Sharing_audio_devices_with_computers_on_the_network
Any idea if Dante Virtual Soundcard supports Linux? I haven’t done any research on it, but I use a lot of audio-over-IP devices for work and all of them use the Dante protocol. It is definitely a “just open the program, tick a few boxes to route things from A to B, and everything works” solution.
It’s proprietary software and it seems doubtful the company will port it to Linux. However it seems there’s a workaround using AES67, or a reversed engineered implementation called teodly.
On Windows audio cuts out every so often.
Also an update broke a driver a bit ago and I had to edit the registry to fix it.
Linux is my comfort OS, everything just works.
Linux is my comfort OS, everything just works.
This exactly!
People who remember trying Linux 20 years ago look at me like I’m crazy. But Linux is so cozy, now!
Linux revoked my mic permissions in the middle of a call today, on Google Meet. Happened before on Zoom.
I have not root-caused it to see if there was flaky hardware or what.
Ok, this prompted me to root-cause the issue. A bad cable between laptop and USB dock seems most likely. Hardware issue, not Linux!
I can’t say I’ve had a great time with audio in either personally, though it’s indeed much easier to fix audio problems in Linux. But just yesterday pipewire must have hung or crashed preventing all browser based video playback entirely, which due to the symptoms not appearing audio related was quite annoying to debug. I still have no idea what caused it in order to avoid it happening again in the future.
The fun part about windows is you don’t know if it’s breaking because of the coke code from the 80’s or the vibe code from the ‘20s.
You forgot the Ballmer Peak code from the 00’s
Oh, yeah, cocaïne fuelled developers bouncing around. I’d forgotten about those.
Developers Developers Developers Developers
Most machines have issues with the headset headphones.
Windows, Mac, Linux.
Many headphones that are headsets will pair as a dual device with the crappy two way audio that sounds like you just connected to your cars Bluetooth from 2005x
Over the years, I’ve just come to accept that, no matter the OS, there are just some things computers suck at. Working with hardware is one of them.
I’m pretty sure working with software is the other.
PipeWire (written by Wim Taymans) did a lot of good for the Linux distro ecosystem when it comes to audio.
I will never forgive him and Fedora for rolling it out when it was a half-baked piece of shit though.
I remember the times before pipewire, not that fun.
Yet more fun than using microslops slop
Dell laptop at a fortune 500. They locked USB and audio down hard on these laptops. Flahsdrives don’t work unless you get an approved dongle. Wired headphones only allow either the mic or headphone output to be working, never both. So I end up using the laptop mic and headphone output.
But Bluetooth is fair game and everything works just fine there 🙃
You raise a good point and everybody rage commenting really doesn’t help - I wonder if they’re using the analog sockets or USB devices?
Linux audio issues were common during the transition to PulseAudio, but that was almost 20 years ago now.
Hard to believe it’s been that long already. Linux has come so far. I remember fighting with audio issues. The most frequent issue I remember having is not being able to have two different programs use the sound card at the same time. Haha. So no system sounds while listening to music.
Two programs not being able to use the sound card at the same time is what happens when you set a program to use an ALSA hw or plughw device instead of PulseAudio or PipeWire.
And they continued until the transition to Pipewire.
I had a shortcut on my taskbar to terminate and reinitialize Pulse. It got used multiple times a day.
Agreed, it was the next step from pulseaudio. To say it wasnt problematic is incorrect, as it had many problems and needed a lot of manual intervention.
Nowadays, pipewire appears alot more stable, even with the compatibility layers for when stuff uses pulseaudio.
pipewire is so cool! It’s so easy to set it up to sling to snapcast!
[sobbing] I don’t know what the fuck snapcast is, I just want sound to work!
I’ve been using Linux as my main operating system since 2010 and can’t recall having any audio issues. My desktop has 5 sound cards and they all work fine. I don’t use bluethooth for audio, so I guess that makes things easier.
Bluetooth have been kinda crap but also HDMI audio devices have been buggy. Analog in/out (3.5mm) has always worked for me.
HDMI audio depends on a proprietary license. The Linux drivers for it are, predictably, less robust.
I guess you’ve just been lucky.
Or you’ve just been unlucky.
It’s very common to have audio issues, in fact. Pipewire is seen as a golden age by many.
Pipewire is my goat
Time for curry
I’ve definitely had some on and off audio issues, nothing crazy usually solved by unplugging and replugging in the device.
I was about to say… Maybe I’ve just been lucky, but I haven’t had the slightest issue with Linux audio. Ever.
mint occasionally loses all sound devices on my media pc, but that’s usually fixed with a reboot. and easy effects caused random sound lags, so i have to live without eq.
I remember when I used to have audio problems all the time, including headphones literally just not even working somehow. Then I switched to Linux.
Unfortunately I do have headphone issues with Linux, but it’s just a bit of silence when unpausing VLC.
Are you using pulseaudio? Could be module suspend on idle (link is blocked for me, might work for you): https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/Modules/#module-suspend-on-idle
Yeah, but does your half-assed linux install come with the incredibly useful NoPilot? Huh?
Checkmate, linux nerds!
does your half-assed linux install come with the incredibly useful NoPilot?
Nope. If for some incredibly bonkers reason I actually wanted to use it, I’d have to actually – gasp! – go to a website and talk to it through a website interface, rather than an interface directly integrated into every goddamn app on my own computer. That’s like … two, maybe even three extra clicks!
(Seriously, though. If for some reason I wanted to talk to a chatbot, I could do that on the chatbot’s website. Why do I need it to be integrated into fucking Notepad?)
Why do I need it to be integrated into fucking Notepad?
The rate at which every security practice is being torn down for the sake of clankers is giving me suicidal tendencies. Surely you will not regret giving the token-based randomness machine root access!
And don’t worry, the mega-corp that has constantly lied about things in the past promises that all the data from the integrated app that gets sent back to company HQ only gets used for training better chatbots (probably) (maybe) (possibly) (unless it’s, like really good blackmail material). And every single thing you’ve ever typed into Notepad surely isn’t just sitting there on a company server, waiting for a subpoena from an increasingly authoritarian government to gain access to…
(And, of course, that program you coded in Notepad? The fact that it was used to train Microsoft’s next chatbot, which then went on to magically write code strikingly similar to yours to be integrated into the next Microslop project without notifying or compensating you in any way … purely coincidental, of course. It’s not stealing – it’s training. Running it through a chatbot first magically removes all copyright protection from your code.)
That’s why.
Its ‘our’ pc now, not ‘your’ pc.
Whats nopilot 👽
It’s Microslop’s Artificial Idiocy
Oh the idiocy is very real
Ty
I imagine it’s rephrased “Copilot”.
Or outfazed copilot
