Wrong. You’re banned because you called the mods autistic in a way that implies autism is something to be looked down upon, hence using it as a slur. So not only you tried to insult the mods, you were ableistic in doing so.
Also, it was not the firsf time you went against that sub’s rules.
Big difference. Autism isn’t a slur, it’s a type of behaviour, I am autistic. It is to specify they follow rules very specifically (and without empathy) and again, I am warning others, which you could take issue with. So I was permabanned based on an implication?
Yes there were multiple occasions of that, and not just on that community. Mods are not keeping the community safer by removing that, they are just using their excess power to enforce respect rather than earning it.
The way you know it is excessive mod abuse is because they went straight to permaban, no warning, no temp ban.
They way you know they are autistic is that:
politics only allows US politcs, not world politics, despite its name being generic.
only news articles with the exact same headline are allowed, no modifications allowed even if it is to provide clarity.
if it is only about US politics, their literal castle is on fire, and they are one of the last free place on the internet for free speech, and they are permabanning people left right and centre for implying ableism.
Don’t just show the modlog on me, show it on the entire community. Last thing I saw on there was crying about people creating hit and run accounts, and while I don’t condone of that either, just hapslappy permabanning is the cause of that.
As I said in my other comment, down the reddit drain we must go, because we didn’t change the fundamental problem of reddit, which was mod abuse.
This is an open form let people speak, or fuck off to reddit if you want to be powerhungry like spez.
Friendly reminder that this will keep getting removed here, because mods are autistic and apply rules very strictly. It needs to be published by one of Donnies mates in the main stream media (or his enemies that are threatened) before you can post it
I’m permabanned from [email protected] because I got provoked into complaining about the rules in the pinned thread for discussing the rules. I never said I didn’t intend to follow them anyway! Absolute bullshit power-tripping.
Permabans should not be instant.
Permabans should require a warning
Permabans should have an expiry.
Absent that, you’ll be able to brag about how many new user sign up every day, because people want to continue participating in a community, despite pissing off a random moderator.
Oh weirdly enough I think I saw somebody replying to your comment! Was it quite recent? The impression they had was that you were banned for ban evasion I think, i.e. that you’d been banned before, then had come back on a new account to call the mods snowflakes.
Not sure tho, don’t quote me, and I don’t honestly care all that much - just saying that might be a reason, rather than what you actually said.
Yes it was recent, and that thread was the last one I saw before replying didn’t work anymore.
I’ve been here for a while, and I think it may be time to say goodbye to this. Federated or not, it’s the same mechanics that made Reddit toxic (minus karma) and the devs are pretty much mini Spezzes, so I doubt it will be that much better in the long run.
In fact poorly modded communities like c/politics will eventually get ignored by more and more and others on piefied and dbzero will grow and then they will get to critical mass until those mods get too crazy.
The core problem these communities and reddits miss is that you have a person coughing up 2~12 hours a week for free to moderate a platform they down own. What is their payment? How are they kept in check? How can users appeal?
And here we have that problem one level up where people call for defederation from certain instances. And there is instance admin abuse.
There are a handful of shitty instances and a handful of mods on popular politics communities that are shitty, but the vast majority of communities are drama free. Politics communities everywhere on the internet end up being drama fests though, with being shitty scaling with popularity.
Not who you are replying to, but anyway.
I generally find this place a lot better than reddit. Everything you point out is valid, RE: core problem.
Moderating is volunteer work, and by nature mods have authority. The real crux as you point out is the lack of ability to appeal a ban. That and lack of ban standardization even amongst mods. Paying mods wouldn’t help really. You can’t ask mods to attend a so you want to be a moderator: a training program for those still in denial about their agoraphobia program.
Because instances admins can ultimately take their ball and go home like you mention. It’s a tricky situation.
There’s a lot of whinging and fussing and very online behaviour on Lemmy. I mostly find that when I start getting annoyed by that stuff, it’s time to do something else.
That’s more a people problem than a lemmy problem. Anyone can make as many instances as they can afford and as many communities as they like.
I don’t see the comparison between spez and the admins, Lemmy is a much different model from reddit.
For as much as I post, I only had two mod actions against me I felt were disproportionate, which is pretty good considering there is no way for anyone to make 100% good decisions all the time. Otherwise good people can flame out and bad people can still be fair mods.
I didn’t like a couple of the big news coms, so I made my own. Build the things you want to see, because you are the fediverse as long as you’re on it.
I’m permabanned on [email protected] because I warned someone “careful, some of the mods on here are snowflakes”
Permaban, same instance, no notification. No recourse.
If someone said: “moderator x is a removed”, guess what? It’s on the same level as that.
Wrong. You’re banned because you called the mods autistic in a way that implies autism is something to be looked down upon, hence using it as a slur. So not only you tried to insult the mods, you were ableistic in doing so.
Also, it was not the firsf time you went against that sub’s rules.
Big difference. Autism isn’t a slur, it’s a type of behaviour, I am autistic. It is to specify they follow rules very specifically (and without empathy) and again, I am warning others, which you could take issue with. So I was permabanned based on an implication?
Yes there were multiple occasions of that, and not just on that community. Mods are not keeping the community safer by removing that, they are just using their excess power to enforce respect rather than earning it.
The way you know it is excessive mod abuse is because they went straight to permaban, no warning, no temp ban.
They way you know they are autistic is that:
Don’t just show the modlog on me, show it on the entire community. Last thing I saw on there was crying about people creating hit and run accounts, and while I don’t condone of that either, just hapslappy permabanning is the cause of that.
As I said in my other comment, down the reddit drain we must go, because we didn’t change the fundamental problem of reddit, which was mod abuse.
This is an open form let people speak, or fuck off to reddit if you want to be powerhungry like spez.
I can’t figure out how to view the modlog on my phone but it’s available isn’t it?
Can anybody link to the modlog for [email protected] please and then we don’t have to rely on “he said, she said”
https://t.feddit.org/modlog?other_person_id=3962378
Thanks CyberEgg!
@[email protected]
Looks like you’re full of shit, “king”.
Looks like you love authoritarianism, so in case you’re in the US, enjoy your stay.
You do realise this mod is only now specifying to me in a public thread the actual reason for my ban, and you’re telling I am the one full of shit.
I’m permabanned from [email protected] because I got provoked into complaining about the rules in the pinned thread for discussing the rules. I never said I didn’t intend to follow them anyway! Absolute bullshit power-tripping.
Permabans should not be instant. Permabans should require a warning Permabans should have an expiry.
Absent that, you’ll be able to brag about how many new user sign up every day, because people want to continue participating in a community, despite pissing off a random moderator.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
It’s pretty easy to switch instances now!
Oh weirdly enough I think I saw somebody replying to your comment! Was it quite recent? The impression they had was that you were banned for ban evasion I think, i.e. that you’d been banned before, then had come back on a new account to call the mods snowflakes.
Not sure tho, don’t quote me, and I don’t honestly care all that much - just saying that might be a reason, rather than what you actually said.
I have one account. This one.
Yes it was recent, and that thread was the last one I saw before replying didn’t work anymore.
I’ve been here for a while, and I think it may be time to say goodbye to this. Federated or not, it’s the same mechanics that made Reddit toxic (minus karma) and the devs are pretty much mini Spezzes, so I doubt it will be that much better in the long run.
In fact poorly modded communities like c/politics will eventually get ignored by more and more and others on piefied and dbzero will grow and then they will get to critical mass until those mods get too crazy.
The core problem these communities and reddits miss is that you have a person coughing up 2~12 hours a week for free to moderate a platform they down own. What is their payment? How are they kept in check? How can users appeal?
And here we have that problem one level up where people call for defederation from certain instances. And there is instance admin abuse.
There are a handful of shitty instances and a handful of mods on popular politics communities that are shitty, but the vast majority of communities are drama free. Politics communities everywhere on the internet end up being drama fests though, with being shitty scaling with popularity.
Not who you are replying to, but anyway. I generally find this place a lot better than reddit. Everything you point out is valid, RE: core problem. Moderating is volunteer work, and by nature mods have authority. The real crux as you point out is the lack of ability to appeal a ban. That and lack of ban standardization even amongst mods. Paying mods wouldn’t help really. You can’t ask mods to attend a so you want to be a moderator: a training program for those still in denial about their agoraphobia program.
Because instances admins can ultimately take their ball and go home like you mention. It’s a tricky situation.
There’s a lot of whinging and fussing and very online behaviour on Lemmy. I mostly find that when I start getting annoyed by that stuff, it’s time to do something else.
That’s more a people problem than a lemmy problem. Anyone can make as many instances as they can afford and as many communities as they like.
I don’t see the comparison between spez and the admins, Lemmy is a much different model from reddit.
For as much as I post, I only had two mod actions against me I felt were disproportionate, which is pretty good considering there is no way for anyone to make 100% good decisions all the time. Otherwise good people can flame out and bad people can still be fair mods.
I didn’t like a couple of the big news coms, so I made my own. Build the things you want to see, because you are the fediverse as long as you’re on it.