American taxpayers will foot the bill for the bailout. And AI will know if you’re unhappy about it.
These companies are “too big to fail.” Just like last time, when the bottom drops out on these bad investments the debt will be socialized.
My theory is they want the democrats to win so they can come hat in hand to congress and ask for bailouts for this totally not essential and speculative industry.
I’m not quite following, why would the Democrats winning make it easier for the AI companies to ask for bailouts? Genuine question.
FUCK AI data centers.
also the fact that the ai chips wont be operational until a few years later, by then the AI models are all outdated.
Its not a monolith, older models are still useful because they’re less intensive and so more efficient for certain tasks. Those older models will likely still run fine on outdated hardware.
A lot of people imagine hardware that has been outdated as immediate e-waste. It sounds stupid because it would be stupid.
A lot of people saw what happened (And is happening) with Crypto mining. How long before dedicated ASICs for models start popping up? Those ASICs are retired generally after ~6 months now, and end up costing more than the mining would generate.
So, tons of ewaste, just from crypto companies.
All that means is that the bribes will have to be bigger. It’s the socialism of the wealthy.
If only these data centers held the information that would have told them they were being the asshole.
That people were dropping their shorts i the first place is a bad sign.
The ubiquity of NSAs signed by government officials shows the entrenched degree of corruption. The companies and officials alike should be charged with crimes.
Not only that but they know people don’t want them and they not only allow it but then also give them tax breaks. So the data center owners aren’t even paying taxes to improve the community. All these assholes do is take
AI tech is the ‘best’ weapon of mass destruction yet.
Might get back into paintball
If you have an outlook or gmail, start migrating off those email services now, before microslop and google evaporate.
It’s gonna happen fast when it happens.
Meh, if it happens to large swathes of Gmail users, and I lose everything in that account, I’d be ok with it. Like who fucking cares, honestly?
Not only would it give me a reason to leave all that bullshit behind forever, since I wasn’t the only one, I’d have a legitimate excuse if I actually lose anything irreplaceable.
Like who fucking cares, honestly?
Anyone who has a little sense of self responsibility?
even if you don’t care at all about any of your emails in your inbox, all the places you registered an account won’t care at all that you lost your email account. even if they cared, they have no way to verify you actually owned the account you claim to.
Oh no my life will be over 🙄
Sounds like a good excuse to not need to respond to 80 things. If everyone expects everyone’s email to be destroyed, people will get a fucking break finally.
Google is a scourge. So is MS.
Don’t worry, Google is still just investing barely more than what they have too much quarter over quarter.
Google and Microsoft are profitable without ai. So I’d assume the bubble popping will not crash them
Maybe they will somewhat crash?
Exactly, they are too big to fail like the banks at this point. They provide too many essential services people need.
we need a government with a backbone, one that will tell the companies to fuck off even thought it will hurt all of us.
Ok, but you should still be migrating off of them.
Sadly need to keep one of those as a back up. I use proton as my main, but I’ve gotten a ton of feedback during my current job hunt that my email is going to spam, so I’ve had to send emails using my outlook backup.
I hate this world
I know I should be. It’s a time issue. My gmail address is linked with my entire fuckin life. I guess that’s how they trap you…
I had a similar issue when I migrated. The thing that worked for me was migrating one account to my new email per day. It makes the whole thing super non intimidating.
I do have a tip for you if you’re migrating anyways. Buy your own domain and use it for your email. That way you’ll never be trapped again.
I’ve never even considered buying my own domain. Would you - or anyone - mind explaining how that works for email? I’m kinda half tech literate. I’m at the level of someone who has Linux on their laptop but has to look up stuff every time they use the console!
But yeah, I’ve been meaning to migrate for years now. Your idea of one account a day makes it seem doable, thanks.
Basicly you buy the domain that you like. Cloudflare sells them at cost. Porkbun has a huge verierty to choose from. After you buy the domain you will have a control panel where you can configure “where” the domain points to.
After you find an email provider that supports custom domains and sign up they will provide you with where to point the MX (email part of the domain) record. Typically some site they control.
In the control panel you point your domain MX records at the address they provide and you can start receiving email at the email of your choice.
After you confirm you can receive email you should then add stuff to your dns control panel like DKIM and SPF so your email won’t be marked as spam. The email provider will give you specific strings to copy paste.
If the email provider starts misbehaving or you just want to switch it’s just a matter of signing up somewhere else and re pointing the domain MX records while you keep the same email. It’s a little more complicated but I means you truly own your email. That and it will typically cost a little bit of money.
are there any domain name registrars that allow prepayment for a decade?
Thanks. Saving this comment. Don’t understand it all but can research. Might give it a try. Cheers
Yes, but I don’t see floods of users switching to better privacy options any time soon
And they’d probably get bailed out at our expense: too big to face consequences.
Not crash them, but they’ll probably need to make Gmail/Outlook into a paid service in order to cover all the costs.
Google Ads is slowly dying, because people just ask AI instead of searching and navigating websites, and that was Google’s biggest revenue.
I don’t see how Google would willingly get rid of the goodwill and data of normal users like that. Most people don’t know about the sheer site of Googles ad revenue. Also, Google will be the player that shows ads in Google answers, so the moat for ads will become bigger instead of smaller in my mind. Do you have a source on Google ads dying? Last I heard was that it was very profitable for alphabet.
I don’t see how Google would willingly get rid of the goodwill and data of normal users like that.
They don’t give a monkey’s fruity fart about goodwill. They’re rent-seeking oligopolists. They’ll squeeze their users as hard as they think they can get away with.
What? No. This is ai data centers new build. Nothing about that would melt their current regular servers.
The current regular servers proved capabilities that hyperscalers are selling at a drastic loss, most of which can be done with a build run on your PC.
in order for hyperscale AI to break even, it has to make $6 trillion a year. The ambition was to replace most of the skilled workforce with something cheaper or more productive. (And that also means pushing most of society into ghettos and reservations.)
The other interest was government projects, such as commanding drone armies and processing surveillance data.
Six trillion is an awful lot, and its looking unlikely there’s that much business to go around.
That money has to come from somewhere. Ultimately the debt service will hit their opex.
There’s no scenario in which building data centers will make the company stop existing, they can just sell or rent what ai data centers they have and exit the business worst case.
Eh, probably they will be labeled “too big to fail” and the US government will go into even more money printing to keep them afloat. Making inflation even worse than it is.
I’m not knowledgeable enough to know what the ramifications of Alphabet’s collapse would bring about. I can only imagine good things, though I know Firefox is propped up by them.
It wouldn’t collapse per se. It would get sold to the next biggest bidder. You’d end up with the likes of Amazon, Microsoft or Musk or something.
well for one, how are you going to recover accounts using your gmail if gmail simply doesn’t exist anymore?
answer: you don’t.
One thing I noticed while voting in the mid terms is how being anti data center is fairly bi-partisan even for maga dick bags.
It is almost as if we have common interests if we got past the “my team!” crap.
Its NIMBY meets ethics. Pure coincidence.
The, we’re going to spend 10 trillion dollars on new data centers and they will use all the water and power messaging for stock pumping while people see costs increasing and rising water and power bills was a pretty direct and understandable message. Remarkably fast turnaround though ,it shows how most concepts are ossified while this was genuinely new and people were willing to change their minds on it.
And yet Republican candidates and sitting legislators are pushing hard for them. They really don’t seem to be reading the room well.
We’re seeing the same thing in Canada, too. The typical alignment between corporations and the right wing seems to not be serving them well this time around…
The face that they are still hesitating with trump becoming highly unpopular tells me that what most likely happened is they were bought by tech bros into their technofeudalism shit.
They’re reading the room just right, you just don’t get who’s in it. They’re doing what they’re told by their tech masters.
I get that but they also need to be elected unless their goal is to pad their pockets as quickly as possible, now, before they get kicked out of office (which, hey, for some, certainly possible).
Personally, I suspect they’re so deep in their own bubbles, and so used to a mindless right wing base that will vote for them no matter what, that they don’t see what’s going on.
I’m studying his body. I’ve never studied the body of a man before. It’s not my thing. Nothing wrong with it, of course. But I looked at his ass and then I looked at his legs. I said, “His ass—shit—it’s like, it’s like a pile of muscle.” Then I looked at his legs, and I said, “Man, his feet are big.” Then I looked at his shoulders, and I tapped him on the shoulder, and it actually hurt my hand. It was like a piece of steel.
Yeah, Google just destroyed 815 acres of forest for a new data centre in Finland without permission. It hasn’t gone down well.
What is the cost of replanting 815 acres of forest? I hope we find out.
The Finnish government sold them that land. They knew exactly what Google was going to do with it.
doesn’t matter. there are laws that must be followed. they broke the law, openly, and someone found out and told people. now the politicians that sold the land have piss on their face and have to do something about it or risk being replaced.
and the written punishment is a fine, right? If they pay it is there any issue?
Petteri Orpo, said attracting investment was a “top priority” and “the value of the data economy extends far beyond direct investment”.
X doubt.
They probably gave them deals on electricity too. The Fins are getting nothing in return. Wow.
Especially not with Finns. They like their forest, about 3/4 of the population goes and disappears into the forest during summer holidays.
And then, they are also quite strict on The Rules Being Followed To Maintain Polite Society, so a corporation both destroying forest and breaking The Rules, well, that’s not gonna end well.
Do they also have those lovely cabins you can rent everywhere, like in Norway? You’d never see my ass (except for work) if I lived there.
Every week I learn something about the nords that I like. I need to look at work visa options.
Uhh, they never were. Politicians were creaming over them because they’re basically funneling taxpayer money back to campaigns.
What a weird sequence of sentences to describe that no one likes data centers
people aren’t dropping their shorts…
cracks are forming…
Cracks are appearing would have been funnier.
Crack spread eh
Its divisive lol
A big crack…
Indeed lol
That’s exactly what I thought. Like wow, that part is in the headline? Lol
Lol, exactly. Someone was feeling frisky writing that headline lol.
I’m studying his body. I’ve never studied the body of a man before. It’s not my thing. Nothing wrong with it, of course. But I looked at his ass and then I looked at his legs. I said, “His ass—shit—it’s like, it’s like a pile of muscle.” Then I looked at his legs, and I said, “Man, his feet are big.” Then I looked at his shoulders, and I tapped him on the shoulder, and it actually hurt my hand. It was like a piece of steel.
Hahahaha is that erotic fiction 101?
oops, left this off…
— Donald Trump
Hahahaha well that clarifies. Thank you. Lol
Don’t worry, this administration will still drop their shorts. Hell, they’ll remove their lower rib cage as well just to further please the billionaires.
remove their lower rib cage
Hahahaha now there is a line I haven’t heard in a while. I think Marilyn Manson came out saying he never did that to address the rumors that he did. However, could totally see this cult of an administration getting behind it if they were asked to.
So crazy that that dude went from being Paul on the Wonder Years to having to debunk those sorts of rumors. Life before the internet, amirite?
Oofff yah no joke. Among other things too lol.
Weirdly, in my school it was Trent Reznor instead of Marilyn Manson.
Well then, maybe i’m confused lol. Wouldn’t be surprised if multiple people were rumored to do it back then.
Nah, it was Manson in my school as well.
Yeah, and Britney Spears had to have her stomach pumped from swallowing too much cum. Rumors back then were wild.
Nope! That was Rod Stewart. Who apparently also jammed gerbils up his ass. Or was it hamsters?
They’d also pull up their shirts to show their scars. No sarcasm.
Yah just like the diapers on the ears, the stupid toupes, and the geriatric diapers as outer wear…fucking idiots.
I think I missed this. What are you referring to?
Some of these sources may be questionable, but you can do your own searches from there lol
Why Republicans Are Wearing Fake Ear Bandages
The toupe thing I kind of made up but here is an example lol
Donald Trump Mocked Over His ‘MAGA Mullet’ Hairstyle
Trump Supporters Wear ‘MAGA Diapers’ At Rallies: A Take On ‘Von ShitzInPantz’ ?
Hah thanks for the link.
