This link has the transcript for the image above, but here’s a key point:
And dammit, if that all makes me “woke”, then I think anybody who uses that word as a pejorative is a f*cking disgrace to the human race. So please just unfollow me right now.
Honestly even the over-the-top caricature that he is is still well-meaning and mostly decent, just zealous. Like literally even their worst case boogyman version is… Mostly fine?
Nope. All are “the radical left” to them, because improving someone else’s life a lot at the cost of a minor inconvenience to yourself is an unhinged, radical idea to them.
“I don’t put oil in my car. It’s not natural.”
Everyone’s brains have cells that manufacture dopamine, receptors that detect dopamine levels, and cleaner proteins that keep your brain from just being full of dopamine all the time.
My cleaner proteins are overpowered, so the dopamine is rarely in my brain long enough to get detected, so I don’t get the “good job sport/hamster treat button” reward feeling unless the dopamine burst is REALLY STRONG, like the first few times I accomplish or learn something new.
That’s why I struggle with brushing my teeth or doing the dishes or making it to appointments on time or doing my homework, but I thrive off of picking up new hobbies that I’m sure I’ll stick with, this time, and not drop the moment I didn’t spend a bunch of money on tools and materials for, like all the previous hobbies.
It’s why I literally cannot form habits.
So I take a medication that inhibits those dopamine vacuums. The dopamine gets produced and gets to stick around long enough in my brain juices that the receptors can take a meaningful poll of my levels. Now when I press the button, the hamster treat comes out!
For decades I thought I was just lazy, and bad, because everyone around me was telling me that I just needed to apply myself. So much potential. It turns out my brain is just too good at one very narrowly specific thing that makes it hard for me to be good at anything.
And meditation or cutting back on sugar or just pushing through it, none of that did a goddamn thing because it’s not a moral failure, it’s not that I’m not trying, it’s that my brain needs a little help managing chemicals.
Oh I absolutely do, neurospicy stranger! I have the kind that comes with crushing Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria too.
I’ve tried some non-Ritalin brands of slow release methylphenidate, plus tried some slow release adderall, but right now just taking two immediate-release adderall is doing the trick.
You should SEE the amount of shit I’ve built this summer. I even contribute at work sometimes, lol.
Name-brand Concerta, which is methylphenidate packaged in some proprietary time-delay system. The time-delay system is crucial, because you extremely do not want the full dosage dumped into your system all at once, or in irregular batches, and apparently the off-brand manufacturers just haven’t cracked it. I don’t think that’s just propaganda.
Also: I hope you live in a place where medication is covered. :/
Ah ok, thanks! A while back I tried Jornay, which is also time release methylphenidate. Now I am just on instant release adderall. Slow release didn’t work for that either. It’s like it takes too long in my system.
It’s good so far!
I’m in the US with the typical high deductible health insurance you get from an employer in a professional office job. But I’m also in a unique situation where the treatment for a different condition of mine is so expensive that the drug company pays your deductible. So it’s almost like I have really good insurance that covers everything.
Right wing ideals have never been consistent. It’s all bluster to push an immediate narrative with no regard to how contradictive it is to their other ideals
Exactly. Like, what are TV suppose to teach? Don’t fraternise with black people? Men should always be dominant over women? Empathy is bad? Christianity is the one and only true religion and Muslims should be deported?
People who say that woke is always bad are wrong. People who say that woke is always great are wrong. The concept is being used for cynically manipulating people to be at each others’ throats all the time because that’s how fucked up shit companies make amazing amounts of money these days apparently.
Dunno how lemmy plays into all this, probably by cargo culting what those shit companies were doing.
Maybe you’re confusing being aware with specific choices of how to respond. Being aware is always good, but you can always argue with what people choose to do with that knowledge.
It’s real simple: woke has a negative connotation for a reason. I won’t deny that the context is complex, but if you think most people react positively to the phrase, you’re living under a rock.
yea, because right wing propaganda has turned it into a pejorative.
LOL, it hasn’t done that in its own. Stop giving them more influence than they’re due. Woke language even has librarais cringing, and it’s not because they oppose the message.
Woke messaging has a problem with exaggeration, the same as all political messaging does. You guys say things like “all gender identities are social constructs,” when that’s clearly not the case. You say things like “all racism is due to systemic racism,” when clearly that’s not the case. People see this. They’re not stupid. They see that your assertions are wrong. I align with the message, I really do, but I’m tired of “woke” messengers fucking up our message with their hyperbolic bullshit. This plays right into Trump’s hands! And until you dipshits see it, he will continue to take advantage and win. So, I’m sorry if you don’t like me pointing it out, but you’re the fucking problem!
I’ve never heard anyone say either of those things but I don’t have an argument against the first one based my understanding of gender.
I think that parts of your statement are likely correct but I doubt a lot of it. The comment you replied to was correct though it is likely more nuanced. That is where your point could play in (which is what enables much exaggeration used by opponents) but your examples show me that you are quite biased (not that I am not) and not necessarily part of those who would be willing to listen to the whole thing.
Could we please stop calling this mediocre LARPers Nazis? My grandfather was a Nazi, party book, SA uniform and all… and he would be ashamed of the MAGAs et. al.
I would recommend we stop using a term altogether and simply make our points. Words can always be deconstructed and redefined. The fact that we create and cling to them is our own fault. “Woke” was a term created by the Left and redefined by the Right. It’s very frustrating to me how we’ve totally cooperated with way the Right is redefining the term by responding to it as though they have a legit understanding of it. Which we have done simply by responding. So many of us are like “they don’t know what it means!” But they do. We defined it for them, and now we just don’t like that they’re using it to attack us. The definition of “woke” is “liberal bullshit.” And it has meaning to all conservatives; the fact that liberals think it’s meaningless doesn’t matter. We don’t even use the term anymore, because we’ve acquiesced to the conservative definition. That means they’ve won, with respect to that specific term. So, stop using it. Let them have it. Move on.
It has a negative connotation only for nazis and racists. For everyone else it has a clear, well defined meaning. Anyone who uses it as pejorative is a racist, nazi propagandist.
You’re just plain wrong. As evidenced by the mainstream media using it as such. They’re not pandering to Nazis. They’re pandering to mainstream liberals, and they see it as a negative term. Go cry to them. Boo-hoo.
That reason is right wing propogandists who have a long history of trying to appropriate language others are using and using it as a negative label within their own community to try to distract from all the bullshit they’re doing to those bigots they are distracting.
it was always “woke”
it should be woke
woke is a GOOD thing, and anyone who says otherwise is a sack of shit and should be ashamed
sincerely,
woke AF woke person who is woke
In England, before ‘woke’ and ‘snowflake’ was a saying, people used to say ‘it’s PC gone mad’.
Sincerely, someone whose PC went mad.
Have you tried fixing your PC by installing Linux?
Yeah.
I use arch btw.
Is arch woke?
Linus is.
This link has the transcript for the image above, but here’s a key point:
Conservatives essentially believe that liberals are all the PC Principal from South Park.
Honestly even the over-the-top caricature that he is is still well-meaning and mostly decent, just zealous. Like literally even their worst case boogyman version is… Mostly fine?
And cannot tell the difference between a peak neoliberal shitlib, an anarchist, or a stalinist
Nope. All are “the radical left” to them, because improving someone else’s life a lot at the cost of a minor inconvenience to yourself is an unhinged, radical idea to them.
Woke is literally just the opposite of ignorant
Woke = Enlightened
Not used widely enough with that intent yet, though.
It might even end up being in the dictionary as “Something that you don’t like”, instead :P
Happier times, when it was just the past tense for “wake”.
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Where the fuck is carburetor?
It became woke so was removed
Hidden by the valve cover, intake is on the far side, note the spark plugs on this side. Air cleaner has been removed. It’s a straight-4.
Gotta love that the battery is the same size as most of the visible engine.
Yup, and you had to regularly check the water level in it.
The car is probably something like a Chevy II.
All whopping 90 hp of it. My first car was 85 hp, so I had to admire the 90 hp Chevy II.
😁 Those dinky little engines were tough, run forever.
Mine was a chevy pickup with the Straight-6 and three on the tree.
Straight six for the indestructible win.
I never got how it was ‘bad’ to be woke but at the same time we should ‘wake up sheeple’.
War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength
Oh and drugs is mental health.
Medication can be an important part of mental healthcare for many people.
“I don’t put oil in my car. It’s not natural.”
Everyone’s brains have cells that manufacture dopamine, receptors that detect dopamine levels, and cleaner proteins that keep your brain from just being full of dopamine all the time.
My cleaner proteins are overpowered, so the dopamine is rarely in my brain long enough to get detected, so I don’t get the “good job sport/hamster treat button” reward feeling unless the dopamine burst is REALLY STRONG, like the first few times I accomplish or learn something new.
That’s why I struggle with brushing my teeth or doing the dishes or making it to appointments on time or doing my homework, but I thrive off of picking up new hobbies that I’m sure I’ll stick with, this time, and not drop the moment I didn’t spend a bunch of money on tools and materials for, like all the previous hobbies.
It’s why I literally cannot form habits.
So I take a medication that inhibits those dopamine vacuums. The dopamine gets produced and gets to stick around long enough in my brain juices that the receptors can take a meaningful poll of my levels. Now when I press the button, the hamster treat comes out!
For decades I thought I was just lazy, and bad, because everyone around me was telling me that I just needed to apply myself. So much potential. It turns out my brain is just too good at one very narrowly specific thing that makes it hard for me to be good at anything.
And meditation or cutting back on sugar or just pushing through it, none of that did a goddamn thing because it’s not a moral failure, it’s not that I’m not trying, it’s that my brain needs a little help managing chemicals.
Wow, that matches my experience exactly.
I’m curious if you’re willing to share what the medication is in your case.
Congratulations, you may have ADHD (one of us one of us <cheer>). The applicable drugs are dopamine reuptake inhibitors (such as Ritalin).
Oh I absolutely do, neurospicy stranger! I have the kind that comes with crushing Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria too.
I’ve tried some non-Ritalin brands of slow release methylphenidate, plus tried some slow release adderall, but right now just taking two immediate-release adderall is doing the trick.
You should SEE the amount of shit I’ve built this summer. I even contribute at work sometimes, lol.
Does ritalin have time-release yet? Hell of a spike if not.
Name-brand Concerta, which is methylphenidate packaged in some proprietary time-delay system. The time-delay system is crucial, because you extremely do not want the full dosage dumped into your system all at once, or in irregular batches, and apparently the off-brand manufacturers just haven’t cracked it. I don’t think that’s just propaganda.
Also: I hope you live in a place where medication is covered. :/
Ah ok, thanks! A while back I tried Jornay, which is also time release methylphenidate. Now I am just on instant release adderall. Slow release didn’t work for that either. It’s like it takes too long in my system.
It’s good so far!
I’m in the US with the typical high deductible health insurance you get from an employer in a professional office job. But I’m also in a unique situation where the treatment for a different condition of mine is so expensive that the drug company pays your deductible. So it’s almost like I have really good insurance that covers everything.
Well, sheeple are the ancient eneny, so you must wake them from the dream that is the world without waking yourself or those you love.
I dont get how you dont understand this.
Right wing ideals have never been consistent. It’s all bluster to push an immediate narrative with no regard to how contradictive it is to their other ideals
Woke, Anti fascist are bad words now. Sounds like a famous book I read.
Exactly. Like, what are TV suppose to teach? Don’t fraternise with black people? Men should always be dominant over women? Empathy is bad? Christianity is the one and only true religion and Muslims should be deported?
Don’t ask if you might not like the answer :/
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People who say that woke is always bad are wrong. People who say that woke is always great are wrong. The concept is being used for cynically manipulating people to be at each others’ throats all the time because that’s how fucked up shit companies make amazing amounts of money these days apparently.
Dunno how lemmy plays into all this, probably by cargo culting what those shit companies were doing.
When the fuck is it bad to be aware of systems and oppression and systems of oppression?
When what you think you are aware of is not exactly true.
So… When i think im being oppressed by the jews, instead of the christians?
That’s not ‘woke’ though. That’s insane woowoo nonsense.
So when you’re not actually aware…
Such as?
Maybe you’re confusing being aware with specific choices of how to respond. Being aware is always good, but you can always argue with what people choose to do with that knowledge.
I am definitely on your side but being aware of things can be very depressing.
LOL bro-- you’re in the wrong fucking place here
woke is ALWAYS great. the opposite of woke is ALWAYS bad.
i don’t know what your maga motivation is, but it’s weak.
For someone who’s so “woke” you’re really societally unaware. But I guess that might be the point….
please, enlighten me
It’s real simple: woke has a negative connotation for a reason. I won’t deny that the context is complex, but if you think most people react positively to the phrase, you’re living under a rock.
Woke is awesome, and I’ll own the “negative” connotation. Fuck MAGA asshat fascists; they seek to eliminate what little democracy was even there.
Woke means: not being an asshat. Woke means: caring for the environment, caring for labour rights, caring to fight oligarchy.
To you. To others, it means something quite different.
“Woke” is a term bigots and racists took over to use to hate on “tolerance” without saying they hate “tolerance”. Take it back.
yea, because right wing propaganda has turned it into a pejorative.
i don’t know how i gave the impression that i give a fuck what maga thinks. but i don’t.
where did i say or imply that? you’re making assumptions based on what you feel, and those assumptions are wrong
again, woke is a GOOD thing, and anyone who says otherwise is a sack of shit and should be ashamed
LOL, it hasn’t done that in its own. Stop giving them more influence than they’re due. Woke language even has librarais cringing, and it’s not because they oppose the message.
Woke messaging has a problem with exaggeration, the same as all political messaging does. You guys say things like “all gender identities are social constructs,” when that’s clearly not the case. You say things like “all racism is due to systemic racism,” when clearly that’s not the case. People see this. They’re not stupid. They see that your assertions are wrong. I align with the message, I really do, but I’m tired of “woke” messengers fucking up our message with their hyperbolic bullshit. This plays right into Trump’s hands! And until you dipshits see it, he will continue to take advantage and win. So, I’m sorry if you don’t like me pointing it out, but you’re the fucking problem!
I’ve never heard anyone say either of those things but I don’t have an argument against the first one based my understanding of gender.
I think that parts of your statement are likely correct but I doubt a lot of it. The comment you replied to was correct though it is likely more nuanced. That is where your point could play in (which is what enables much exaggeration used by opponents) but your examples show me that you are quite biased (not that I am not) and not necessarily part of those who would be willing to listen to the whole thing.
Well there’s a progressive attitude. I imagine a rainbow swastika.
The only swastikas being flown on flags are from MAGAts.
What would you have us use instead then? They were going after “empathy” last month. No matter what word you choose, Nazis are gonna Nazi.
Could we please stop calling this mediocre LARPers Nazis? My grandfather was a Nazi, party book, SA uniform and all… and he would be ashamed of the MAGAs et. al.
I would recommend we stop using a term altogether and simply make our points. Words can always be deconstructed and redefined. The fact that we create and cling to them is our own fault. “Woke” was a term created by the Left and redefined by the Right. It’s very frustrating to me how we’ve totally cooperated with way the Right is redefining the term by responding to it as though they have a legit understanding of it. Which we have done simply by responding. So many of us are like “they don’t know what it means!” But they do. We defined it for them, and now we just don’t like that they’re using it to attack us. The definition of “woke” is “liberal bullshit.” And it has meaning to all conservatives; the fact that liberals think it’s meaningless doesn’t matter. We don’t even use the term anymore, because we’ve acquiesced to the conservative definition. That means they’ve won, with respect to that specific term. So, stop using it. Let them have it. Move on.
It has a negative connotation only for nazis and racists. For everyone else it has a clear, well defined meaning. Anyone who uses it as pejorative is a racist, nazi propagandist.
You’re just plain wrong. As evidenced by the mainstream media using it as such. They’re not pandering to Nazis. They’re pandering to mainstream liberals, and they see it as a negative term. Go cry to them. Boo-hoo.
I believe you have proved my point.
LOL, then your point is garbage.
No you just dont understand it lol
That reason is right wing propogandists who have a long history of trying to appropriate language others are using and using it as a negative label within their own community to try to distract from all the bullshit they’re doing to those bigots they are distracting.
That’s it.
What is this “long history” you speak of? Point to it for me. Demonstrate you know what you’re talking about.
Believe me, I have no love of conservatives, but you still have to back up your points with facts.
It’s very easy to debunk Trump’s points with facts because he has none.
You sound so woke
Ooh, sick burn.
For someone who’s so “societally aware”, you’re really a sack of shit. But I guess that might be the point…