Lol, lmao even. What about all the russian bots spewing political propaganda 24/7, just to name one of the millions of glaring examples?
Obvious to anyone with two braincells to rub together that this is further capiulation to the american fascist pants-shitter in chief. And money. Same thing anyways.
When do we put zuckyberg through the hague?
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STOP.
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USING.
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FACEBOOK.
- Promote
- Viable
- Alternatives
No alternative is viable if no one uses it.
The network effect is real, and it’s what lets these fascism pushers stay top of mind at all times.
The problem is that this isn’t like Microsoft Office > LibreOffice/OnlyOffice/whatever. You’re not on Facebook for Facebook, you’re on Facebook for the people there. It’s why I have a lot of issues getting off of YouTube. I’m not on YouTube because their interface is nice, I’m on YouTube because the people I want to watch don’t post shit elsewhere. It’s a cycle, to get users we need stuff, and for stuff we need creators, and for creators we need users. When it comes to online platforms we don’t need an alternative to YouTube, we need an alternative to Markiplier, which is harder to come up with.
If you can get your friends, and family onto Friendica that would help quite a bit. The problem is that using a new server is hard for the end user (I would know, all of my fediverse presence is on servers I host), and telling someone “Use Friendica” is like telling someone to “Use email”. Get a Friendica/Mastodon/Whatever server, and keep it in your back pocket. Give them a link to that server, not to Friendica/Mastodon/Whatever as a whole.
Admittedly I don’t know how hard it is to stop using Facebook because I stopped using Facebook right after they took away the chronological timeline, and stopped using Messenger a few years ago. But spending some time to get a timeline together that you can boost will help any new users you recruit. Crucially, to promote viable alternatives, you need to be part of the viable alternatives, otherwise you’re just someone telling someone to jump into something new with 0 guidance, which is a good way to have them leave.
to get users we need stuff, and for stuff we need creators, and for creators we need users
Don’t know. When YouTube started, there were creators, but no users and no way to monetize. Problem is, we are so used to the high production value on YouTube, where people can (and more often than not hope to) make money, so we don’t give the poor production value videos a chance anymore. But we watched that 140p video back then, because there was nothing else and it was interesting.
Facebook to Friendica
Twitter/Threads to Mastodon/Euclavd
Instagram to Pixelfed/Vernissage
Tiktok to Loops
YouTube to PeerTube
Anything else?
Now do whatsapp, the default messaging platform for the majority of the world.
Signal or threema i got both never used WhatsApp ever. There’s also sms, samsung and apple chat which are about as secure as WhatsApp is
Now which of those is available worldwide?
There are parts of the world where you can get online and on Facebook/whatsapp without even having “internet”. If you pay for Internet, you get access to other websites as well.
Not one of those but XMPP (once upon a time called Jabber) is available worldwide.
So is Matrix.
How does WhatsApp work without Internet?
Some places you get internet, but you’re limited to 3-4 “basic” sites unless you pay for it. Facebook/Whatsapp is often one of those basic sites. Or was.
Reddit to Lemmy / PieFed / PyLova
Facebook marketplace?
Believe it or not, Craigslist
Offer up, but it’s kinda same same, just without zuck.
Loops
I wish every content creator would post on both TikTok AND Loops, because Loops could definitely replace TikTok. It has a really solid basis and a lot of potential(although I wish I didn’t have to pause before scrolling off of a video).
I am really glad to see someone mention Loops, and if I could choose to view someone’s content on Loops instead of TikTok, I would.
Edit: Oh, and https://loops.video/ if anyone is wondering what we’re talking about.
“Let’s have tacos tonight.” “Nah Im not feeling tacos.” “OK let’s get Chinese food.” “Nah i don’t want Chinese food.” "…ok… let’s make soup. " “Nah I don’t want soup tonight.”
This made me thoughtful and laugh at the same time, thank you.
You’re right, of course. People prefer centralized platforms, and we “nerds” prefer decentralized ones.
There are no alternatives.
The viable alternative is nothing.
Because no one gives a shit about you (general you, not specific at BitsAndBites), or about what you say. You use it cause you’re addicted to performing for people you dont even talk to or like, because no one can actually maintain hundreds, if not thousands of connections like you collect on facebook, most of whom don’t even give a shit about you. its just a mutual masturbation session, only instead of jerking each others dicks off, your jerking eachother off with pointless likes.
All social media is, is a means of generating profit from mental illness, and manufacturing mental illness for profit.
You use it cause ~you’re addicted to performing for people you dont even talk to or like~ it’s the only place to get and share updates from your extended family
Holy shit send them a text ask them how they’re doing, maybe even a phone call. You don’t have to choose to give mark zuckerberg a monopoly on your family’s stories and memories.
All of them. At once. Facebook is where older people share updates that they don’t want to have to share with every single person in their life individually.
I already have individualized communications.
I stopped using Facebook years ago.
Before there were viable alternatives.
The idea that you need Facebook because there aren’t significant alternatives is just not true.
You don’t have to tell this to me. You have to tell this to my entire extended elderly family.
No, you have to tell them. And then not be on facebook for them to reach you there.
How do I tell them if I’m not on Facebook? That’s where they are.
Theyre somewhere on planet earth, you can choose not to give mark zuckerberg a monopoly on your family’s communications.
That’s not how monopolies work.
And also Instagram and whatever other Zuck products are in your life. I’m happy they wasted so many billions of dollars setting of virtual Mii meetings lmao…
the problem is people are so addicted to it, at least in my province. They don’t want to hear about any alternative that would require the smallest effort. In the 80’s, Dead Kennedys made an album called “Give me convenience or give me death”. I took me decades to realize how accurate this title was for depicting the world we live in.
Big liZard in my back yard! Heh thanks I haven’t thought of them in a while
quick correction- that’s Dead Milkmen
Crap…wrong dead people. Got a vibe for weekend music now though. Thanks.
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Meta wants to be the global town square, but apparently Virginia Woolf and feminism are too dangerous for its ad system. Meanwhile the company keeps asking us to trust its algorithms with billions of people’s speech. If Meta can’t distinguish feminist literature from prohibited content, maybe it shouldn’t be the internet’s self appointed censor.
No one should be the World Wide Web’s self appointed censor!
If Meta can’t distinguish feminist literature from prohibited content,
You misunderstand… Feminist literature is the prohibited content. I’m not making a joke here. That’s literally their policy!
While allowing scam and porn ads on there that harm millions of people
It’s amazing how blantly they allow scam ads. I reported ads for stolen credit cards and counterfeit money and meta closed my reports stating there was nothing wrong with the ads. What is this? The dark web?
Honestly, I think the dark web is a safer concept than X or Meta. The legitimacy of society’s most powerful people is far more insidious than backstreet markets and courtesans: they don’t make laws or support evil institutions across entire nations, nor able to leverage them as a club.
The ordinary pickpocket just wants money. A wealthy elite considers other humans to be decorative, to be used and disposed of.
They’re directly incentivized to allow scams, since over 10% of their total revenue comes from scams
It’s a catastrophe in double standards.
So would promoting a play about how great capitalism is get filtered out I wonder?
I’m fortunate to be of the age where I’ve grown out of Facebook so never bothered to setup Instagram.
Moving on from WhatsApp is hard though 😡
Use Signal instead.
I forced my family and all my friends onto it many many years ago. Fuck Zuck.
Did you know, if you use uBlock origin, you can add these to your “My Filters” custom filter list:
||facebook.com^ ||instagram.com^And you’ll never accidentally surf to one of those again?
Sadly some restaurants use Facebook for their menu or specials…
Those are the restaurants I walk back out of.
That’s a shame. Businesses gotta market themselves and sadly social media is often used.
Theres a bbq spot near me with the best ribs/brisket in the area. Standard web menu with ecommerce. With weekly specials on Facebook. I’d never have ordered a brisket bomb sandwich without the FB image.
If I had to describe that meal in a word. Mouthgasm
Hate the platform. Not the restaurant.
this is not a shame, this is a rational decision.
I used fetchrss.com to create an RSS feed for my favorite TTRPG store that uses Facebook as their website. I haven’t had a Facebook account in like 15 years, but I can still see when they post something now.
What kind of Feminism?
A Virginia Woolf play
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Meta’s content moderation system stepped in … on the grounds that it violated a rule on promoting “social topics…”
Advertising is social by its very nature and I can’t imagine any sort of serious ad that wouldn’t fall under that “social” umbrella.
An ad that suggested “Stay home and do nothing” would still be a case of one human being reaching out to another human being.
I know my reasoning isn’t going to make Meta crumble, but I do want to make it clear how dishonest and craven this is.
It’s just an excuse to promote Fuckerberg’s incel worldview
I’m online and I don’t really play as many games but I watch reviews and stuff about the gaming community every now and again (I just bought a Steam Frame 🤦 though …). The number of these damned gaming commentators complaining about “woke in games” is exhausting. So you have to see what these guys consider “social topics” and it’ll unsurprisingly show you their (right leaning) world view. By the way, these commentators just forgive death threats online and say things like “it’s all apart of the Internet” but hey … The new Wolverine game isn’t any good because of woke and DEI though.
The number of these damned gaming commentators complaining about “woke in games” is exhausting.
Alternatives exist. There’s a guy I listen to named Felix Biederman who has done exhaustive rundowns of Metal Gear Solid and Dark Souls. He manages to get out 4+ hours of content an episode without worrying about “Woke” even once. Then you’ve got classics like PennyArcade which remain a bastion of politics-neutral gaming content and coverage.
But if you’re just cruising on the back of the algorithm… yeah. Your Asmongolds and Pewdiepies, who go full Hitler because it got attention through negative reaction, are predictably toxic. And then you’ve got the Mr. Beast style of producer who has turned slopifying the algorithm into a passion project.
PennyArcade is not “politics neutral”, especially if you read the posts.
Penny Arcade isn’t neutral. At least it wasn’t when I was reading it.
Who can forget the hard-nosed political analysis of the PA Comics from the early 2000s?
Two genders, male and political.
I just don’t see why they had to make X Men woke? Why does everything have to be about a persecuted minority group finding its standing in a society that fears it?
(tee hee)
“but why are there so many people concerned about getting diversity in an X-Men game?? why can’t it just be fun??”
It’s really annoying because you know none of this is grounded in reality. They think The Wolverine game isn’t any good because they hire someone with a six figure salary to count genders.
Anyone complaining about politics in their video games is waving a huge red flag.
Anita Sarkeesian on notice.
Stay home, do nothing is a strike.
Yeah, I think they want boring ads like “our product is the shit. Buy it because this is what you’ve seen most and became familiar with.”
Walk away.
I haven’t been on Facebook in years. And I plan to keep it that way. Last time I was on there it was filled with AI generated content and advertisements and I couldn’t even see my friends posts. What’s the point then?
Feminism is failed slop.
awesome, censorship on lemmy, and they have the gall to get mad at the censorship on other platforms. 😂
lol
First and second wave are decent.
Third wave is where things went off the rails.
Oh man, your comments history. Are you a parasitic NEET troll, or are you just insufferable?
Oh - are you one of THOSE people?
certainly
I like to read people’s comments. But I will never judge them based on them. 1 - I don’t want to read through the threads to get the context to make sure I actually understand what they are saying and 2 - we all have our funny niche. Just cause you like some kinky/weirdly stuff doesn’t make my kinky/weirdly stuff any better.
Give people a little slack.
facebook has become such a sinister platform. i’ve witnessed several members of my family become radicalized by their algorithms pushing conspiratorial rhetoric. the worst part? they refuse to use anything else. there’s just something about facebook that has them convinced it’s reputable.
FB was always pushing russian back propaganda since 2016, alot of boomers and gen-xers use it, and millneals
It creates the illusion of socializing while using the Fox News formula of alternating between titillation and fear. That and youtube idiots and podcast bros have ruined so many people’s lives.
This…
As shitty as Meta is, I really don’t like the reductive nature of this headline. Here is the original Guardian article:
“Meta bans ads for Virginia Woolf play in Spain because they relate to feminism”
This turned into “Meta Now Banning Ads That Promote Feminism”, with a quote from the showrunner to make it sound even more scary. Frankly, either of them can barely be called journalism, because they can’t be bothered to write more than a page on the subject.
I don’t think the headline is reductive at all, in fact, you could take it a step further and say Facefuck has banned all social activism in advertising.
They literally said that “any mention of civil rights, feminism or social reform are usually classified as ‘social topics’ by our automatic system,” and therefore rejected.
So how the fuck is it reductive?
Look at that. Someone claiming that people are overreacting to this clear censorship of feminism.
What a surprise.
Thank GOD! The ONLY Ads I want to see on Meta are Child Porn Apps and Political Ads!
-Facebook users apparently!
"Quit shoving your woke agenda down our throats!
And let me get back to deep-throating all the fascist right-wing propaganda you have!!!"
Meanwhile, literal scams and porn:
CP as well.
Wall to wall gambling ads
Meanwhile they promote misogynistic vitriol that enables violence against women.
Fuck Meta. They’re a terrorist organization and should be treated as much.
“Stop being political!” say the people running the manufactured hate machine.
*brainwashing machine
“stop saying things we dont like” is what they mean
