Portainer is changing to a mostly AI and kubernetes supported app.
Phew. Dodged a bullet just by adhering to SLSA.
That sucks. It was one of the few GUIs that did a good job with most aspects of Docker Swarm. I knew it was heading in a shitty direction, but I was hoping something else would come along to fill the gap in the mean time.
Embarrassing
I switched from Portainer to Komodo a while back. I like how everything is declarative. It almost has a Argo CD feel to it without needed kubernetes.
Maybe it helps if you have a gigantic stack of containers, but I’ve honestly never seen the point of Portainer when I can just look at my compose file.
I set it up years ago when I still had Ubuntu desktop running on an old laptop. Just kept using it even after using and learning kubernetes at work on an enterprise scale. Also the automatic image checks, easy to check metrics, logs, and endpoints. I have 33 containers right now, it’s just simple to see them all in one screen.
Does your compose file in itself give you a nice, easily readable status display, analytics, metrics, logging, etc. interface?
No, but I’ve never needed them.
My devs prefer Docker, and don’t want Kubernetes! We have a fix for that: Portainer-D2K. Portainer-D2K is a Docker translator for Kubernetes
As someone who was using mostly podman and is now switching to kubernetes I can confidently say that the cli interface was not what was holding me back. Instead it was the sheer amount of setup and complexity kubernetes can bring into an environment. Kubernetes is great when you want most or all the features it offers, it is horrible if you want to deploy 3 containers for your application on one host.
Oh well, not like I have to care, I wasn’t interested in portainer to begin with.
Right? Why do they offer a community version and a pro version that’s free for 5 nodes - meaning very small environment, your typical homelab - and push so much for stuff used to manage enterprise-sized deployments?
They want to be a competitor to openshift and rancher.
I use 100% kubernetes at work and help other teams get their app working but at home I don’t run anything that supports it.
Portainer was outdated 5 years ago, and it sucked at the job it did.
I’ma stick with dockge and argocd
I went from Dockge to Dockhand, though both are good. Dockge was my UI of choice for the last couple of years, so slim and simple. I tried Dockhand on a whim and the extra features won me over, without having a bazillion buttons and confusing UI.
For a lot of my remote hosted services managed with compose, I’ve just been hand rolling the compose files and ssh’ing in.
How do you detect outdated containers?
Not who you responded to, but I do the same and have Pullio set up, which is lightweight and easy enough for my uses cases.
I have a few containers set up for notifying only, but most my services I just let auto-update
Welp, no more portainer for me
Dropped portainer years ago. Managing some compose files isn’t hard, and Dockhand is better for managing updates
Another good option is Arcane. Its project structure gives you a good place to put bind mounts which you can edit the contents of in app (like configs and such). It’s pretty handy. I am in the process of switching to it from komodo for all of my stacks
Guess I’ve figured out how I’m going to spend my Friday evening.
Very happy when I migrated over to dockhand. Fits exactly my needs for a simplistic overview of all of my containers and their resources.
How does it compare to dockage? I haven’t used either.
Portainer has worked well for me but it has so much that I don’t need or use. It looks like Dockhand has a Home Assistant integration which is nice, so I’ll check that out thanks for the rec.
Man, I didn’t even know dockhand had a HA integration, I know what I’m doing when I get home.
