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Sounds like a hell of a system that puts mine to shame. I’m impressed fellow self hoster :)

I completely agree, that why I said I don’t blame the guy, was just doing what Apple encouraged him and all of us to do.

My comment was more meant as advice. Apple definitely should be making this right, BUT this is also a good eye opener for the rest of us.

I’m not blaming the guy, but he seems smart enough that he should have known better. Data isn’t secure if it’s in a single location, he gave up control and the inevitable happened.

I do not trust anyone with my data, the more important, the more sure I am that I have copies in several locations, including ones that are entirely in my control. My photos exist on multiple devices, cloud, my selfhosted immich server and my offline backup. Same with documents and other important data. My ripped movie collection is not backed up since I have the physical media.

Do not give up control, the systems are all setup to give you the illusion of security, but then this kind of thing happens. Maybe I’m extra paranoid since I’ve been the victim of identity theft but I’m comfortable with my level of paranoia.

Update- for the record, yes, Apple needs to make this right. I DO NOT blame the victim, my comment is here as advice, not to shit on the dude.

Sure, but I still think there should be a way to do this without the need. Password managers are fine, again, not upset with them but still, it should be easy enough to not need one, at least for a normal person.

A lot of this is due to dealing with my elderly parents. They have so much of their lives reliant on services, but they are no longer capable of even figuring out a password manger. Even for important shit, there should be a better way to do this than having to keep track of hundreds of pieces of information. Passwords shouldn’t even be a thing we ever need to use unless we need to break glass. There are methods out there that work, but it’s so disjointed but also interconnected.

Honestly, no idea how it could be solved other than through legislation maybe. Fat fucking chance with the way the world currently works.

Oh, agreed, I do this as well. Again though, so much bullshit, why should we need dozens or hundreds of email addresses?

I feel like everyone is so used to needing accounts for everything, it’s just accepted as a given. When you go to the store to purchase a newspaper, should we have to bring our passport?

I agree, and I do use an open source one, but I disagree that we need to identify ourselves for everything. You can’t even look at a resturaunt menu anymore without signing up for an account. Everything is gate kept behind an account, and those accounts are all so interconnected that when one is compromised, it might for multiple and often you will never know (and I’m not talking about password reuse).

Password managers are a good solution to the problem, I’m not mad at them, I’m mad at the problem that necessitates them.

The fact that modern life basically requires a third party app to prevent instant identity theft and fraud is a real problem.

It all comes down to the fact that every fucking service in the world is just there to scrape data. I don’t need to logon and provide my every detail to check the local weather, I shouldn’t have to give my social security number to play video games…

The Wright Brothers did not know everything about flying, physics, engines, etc. They knew enough to do it, and did. In the years since we have written millions more pages and tried so many more things that if I want to fly, I don’t need to reinvent the airplane. This is the superpower of humanity, we don’t have to reinvent every time.

We all know enough about capitalism, socialism, etc. to act. Instead we prefer to sit and wank longer about the best possible society; meaning all we can do is endlessly talk about the best possible society.

The only way to actually build one is to learn what’s needed and act. Who cares what label it has, who cares if the theory is sound or not. If it doesn’t work in practice, you iterate forward.

I’m not going to reply to any more stupidity in here. Go theorize all you want. I’ll just leave one comment.

Otherwise it’s like saying you want to be able fly without developing theories of physics, aerodynamics, and internal combustion engines.

Check a history book, that’s precisely how we started flying.

I’m well aware. I guess good luck instituting socialism then. I bet you get far.

To not be a dick. Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying. We have don’t have a coherent system, we have aspects of many, but the western ‘cult’ worships at the alter of capitalism. But we have a very corrupted version of it, that includes socialist, and authoritarian, and fascist tendencies. Things are far too entrenched to simply say, replace the system we have with this other one.

No system has ever been instituted to its definition, there is always unique challenges and differences and personalities. Spending time instituting a whole scale replacement, is time that will be wasted. Instead, we need a strategy of implementation through attrition. Forget the isms, just work on addressing the problems, and eventually we can build a better system.

It has a corrupt form of capitalism. It also has corrupt socialism.

So, do the good shit and I personally belive a socialist style system will result. It’s the work against the corruption that is the hard part.

I love this idea. Libraries should provide free hosting for people in the community.

Im all about democratizing the internet, and im all about self hosting. Libraries could be just what we need for that.

Brilliant idea my friend.

we don’t have capitalism. But fuck any ism, just find the broken shit and fix it. People think there’s one trick, one system, one thing that will fix shit. Nothing will but work, time, effort, good judgement. What worked yesterday, won’t work tomorrow, at least without updating it.

Yeah, capitalism is fucked. I don’t want to put in another fucking ism, I want to buckle the fuck down and fix the shit that’s wrong.

these are not two sides. The system is working as some intend so needs to be dismantled, at least large parts of it, to fix it.

People always forget, nuance exists.

I have, but they wouldn’t take a fist born, nor magic beans…

I try to keep one or two near collections at all times. Makes me feel like someone cares…

This is a joke (although I am often behind on bills).

I use Dr. Bronners hemp peppermint for everything. Soap, shampoo, toothpaste, dish soap, dog shampoo, hell, I once washed my car with it.

Ok, so I only use it as toothpaste while camping, but still, I could.

It’s true. I have had a good number of jobs, I come, work on things, make improvements, then move on when I’ve grown or they are in a better spot. I honestly thought I was the guy coming in to help fix things and then move on once things are stable.

Instead, I have created a series of opportunities for them to blame the last guy to leave.

No matter how good of a job you do, unless you are there to remind folks, they will forget and use the easy scapegoat. I’m still very popular with the folks I worked with on the ground, but management types are primarily after someone else to blame…

I do use it myself (free tier only) but it’s out of ease and convenience. I’m ready to abandon it but I like the security it brings. My stuff is just personal garbage with no strict uptime requirement - if I lose public access I still have Tailscale and a VPN to my router as backup.

So, it’s a deal with the devil for sure, but it’s one I wore protection for when signing.

Given the grindr stats that follow them wherever they go, this seems plausible.