I hate european toilets for this reason. If I cannot access the cistern due to a plumbing problem and have to literally rip apart panelling to diagnose any issue, then this toilet is anti-consumer
Edit: Actual Europeans pointing out that you can access the cistern by pulling out the button plate. Makes sense now, apologies, I didn’t know - it really looked like it was access hostile
No need to apologize. Even access through that panel is ridiculous. Those panels are 20x40cm max. Working at 90 degrees through a small opening is unnecessarily hard. And major repairs, which will be once every 30 years or so will require ripping the wall open.
It only makes sense for commercial installs where Hotels go through complete renovations every 10 years and and an extra .5 meter clearance is critical because the bathrooms are tiny in downtown European cities.
I just had a look because I have never had to service a toilet like this. The water shutoff appears to be easily accessible. As for any further work, an exposed tank is surely easier to deal with when a toilet misbehaves.
No, you cannot service the joint between the tank and the bowl. And because it is hidden, it could leak for decades creating mold without anyone knowing until people get sick from black mold.
Yeah, it could be a pain occasionally, though the amount of times I’ve opened it up to look in the past few years is few and the times I actually needed to get in there has been none so far here.
Though there was one toilet at one place I lived that wouldn’t close that seal properly and would just keep running the water since it couldn’t fill the reservoir and it needed to be pushed down every flush. But it was a college age problem that would have been better solved by solving the issue instead of dealing with it for the years we were there.
And on the pros side, less cleaning required, and what you need to clean is a simpler shape. Even better if that bathroom has a drain in the floor and the shower head can reach everywhere, though I doubt that’s the case with those floors.
Looks like a pretty typical European toilet? What’s the problem?
The large flush button looks like it got clipped on the left but that could be a weird artistic decision.
I hate european toilets for this reason. If I cannot access the cistern due to a plumbing problem and have to literally rip apart panelling to diagnose any issue, then this toilet is anti-consumer
Edit: Actual Europeans pointing out that you can access the cistern by pulling out the button plate. Makes sense now, apologies, I didn’t know - it really looked like it was access hostile
No need to apologize. Even access through that panel is ridiculous. Those panels are 20x40cm max. Working at 90 degrees through a small opening is unnecessarily hard. And major repairs, which will be once every 30 years or so will require ripping the wall open.
It only makes sense for commercial installs where Hotels go through complete renovations every 10 years and and an extra .5 meter clearance is critical because the bathrooms are tiny in downtown European cities.
You can access and replace the entire internal mechanism through the hole the wall plate for the flush buttons is mounted on.
I just had a look because I have never had to service a toilet like this. The water shutoff appears to be easily accessible. As for any further work, an exposed tank is surely easier to deal with when a toilet misbehaves.
The flush button can be pushed upwards and taken off. Everything else is accessible from there.
You can service and repair every part through the opening. It’s a bit tight, but doable.
No, you cannot service the joint between the tank and the bowl. And because it is hidden, it could leak for decades creating mold without anyone knowing until people get sick from black mold.
Maybe there’s a closet for it rather than it just being in the wall?
Yes, but where – in a different room or an outside panel even.
Imagine needing to check the cistern and flush it - you have to run into the bathroom and out of it constantly to check
It’s right there behind the buttons. The whole button panel comes off, and leaves a hole in front of the mechanism.
Yeah, it could be a pain occasionally, though the amount of times I’ve opened it up to look in the past few years is few and the times I actually needed to get in there has been none so far here.
Though there was one toilet at one place I lived that wouldn’t close that seal properly and would just keep running the water since it couldn’t fill the reservoir and it needed to be pushed down every flush. But it was a college age problem that would have been better solved by solving the issue instead of dealing with it for the years we were there.
And on the pros side, less cleaning required, and what you need to clean is a simpler shape. Even better if that bathroom has a drain in the floor and the shower head can reach everywhere, though I doubt that’s the case with those floors.
The flush button looks like a penis.
Tap the tip for pee and the shaft for poo.
I thought pee was stored in the balls not the tip?
Oh, then I don’t know. I’m not a doctor 🤷
Poo is definitely stored in the shaft though
Why the fuck does it look like that? Are they in the running for most confusing possible button design?