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The good thing about being on an out of date OS. No more fucking updates.
I swear to god Microsoft does this on purpose to get you to restart and update
It was in all likelihood lagging because of Windows Update. The only way I would use Windows at this point is if it was Windows 10 LTSC with updates disabled or in an offline environment.
I’ve even gone through the frustrating task of setting up wine bottles to hold windows-only softwares such as Clip Studio Paint and Autodesk softwares.
Fun fact, ever since I switched to linux I’ve never had a system crash, unlike on Windows were every few days nVidia video or audio control would cause a BSOD. I’m actually convinced they make buggy and crashing drivers intentionally in order to push people off the 20 and 30 series cards, if somebody can prove it then it’ll be a multimillion dollar class action.
Nothing is better than let’s check something quickly before I go on a two week journey 🙄
Yep PC does whatever for two weeks
🐧
In my experiences, it’s Windows Update in the background causing the lag. Doing it’s shitfuckery things, planting it’s shitfuckery seeds, waiting for restart season to trigger the bloom…
It is funny though, “Updates! You need to restart!”
“Oh, okay!”
Restart > GRUB auto boots to Linux.
I know it’s a future me problem, but I’m in Windows for work like once a month these days. That’s fine.
You just reminded me.
At one point I had Windows take up two drives, one for boot and one for games. However, I only ever really used it for this one piece of software that I couldn’t get working on Linux, so I nuked it and reinstalled Windows on the smallest drive I have, just for that software.
Two weeks later I got the software working on Linux, and I completely forgot I even have a Windows partition up until now. It’s been months.
“Haha! I use Linux and don’t have to deal with this!”
Goes to work, has to use Windows 11 computer and solidworks
Goes to work, has to use Windows 11 computer and solidworks
My job pushed windows on us two years ago. I work as freelancer and don’t have much choice, it’s either “comply” or “leave”.
So yeah, that's how I work now:
Does that one come with fishnets? Perchance?
Me? Only unix socks
At work, I get paid to sit around and twiddle thumbs while staring at the update screen.
Ooo, me too!
I also get to twiddle my thumbs when the connection is lost to the license server.
At least at work it’s ITs problem if shit goes awry.
Haha, i wish! They always go “oh, that’s OT software, yeah we have no clue about that, you’re on your own”
It’s dangerous to go alone. Take this:
gift from IT
Very true.
Good old SolidNearlyWorks
The “ctrl” and “S” key on my keyboard have the letters worn off.
I went in here expecting Linuxposts. Was not disappointed.
Windows users cannot understand the absolute absurdity of “I can’t use my computer right now, it’s updating.”
Had to boot my work Windows laptop a while ago, because the software I have to work on uses some stupid Windows sign in thing, and I wasn’t fast enough getting Kerberos working before everyone went on vacation.
I’d forgotten that every single piece of software handles its own updates, and to install anything you have to like, go around to different places and download it. It’s crazy.
Nevermind the file manager making a dozen HTTP requests every time you launch it.
“haha it’s thinking”
Good. Twice the delay, double the wait.
This fucking dirtbag is going to reinstall edge, skype, outlook, and turn all bluetooth devices back into telephony enabled earrape machines.
Don’t forget, it’s also going to install a new, non-optional AI assistant in … *rolls dice* … Windows Media Player.
I’ve had a Debian install brick itself on update / restart. As annoying as Windows is, it hasn’t done that to me. Nothing is perfect, there are horrible software crimes hiding under every system you could name.
Your Debian install didn’t brick itself, it’s perfectly fine. You bricked your computer because you don’t understand Linux. Just because you bricked your own computer because you don’t know how to use Linux doesn’t make anything by Micro$lop any better.
I’ve had my Arch install boot into emergency mode a couple of times, usually because an HDD was missing or added and I had to edit the fstab file, but I’ve never had one “brick” itself. I have actually had Windows brick itself once, when the MBR got corrupted. You can’t fix that, best you can do is extract your files via another working system if they were unencrypted.
The other day my arch booted into tty and I had to reinstall sddm. Still wonder why that happened
Good idea to restart, not shut down, about once a week if you’re using Windows. It only clears things out on a restart for some reason.
Good idea to restart, not shut down, about once a week if you’re using Windows.
lol, I had my Linux PC running for over a year continuously once, with no issues. Only had to reboot because a power outage lasted longer than my UPS could keep it running.
It only clears things out on a restart for some reason.
Because Microsoft, in its infinite wisdom, decided to turn ‘shut down’ into a sleep/hibernate mode instead, in order to deliver faster boot times. (Instead of, you know, actually making the OS faster and more efficient for faster boot times.)
This is true for kernel updates in Linux as well.
Whenever I update the kernel I will need a restart eventually because it breaks the openvpn somehow and I’ve been too lazy to figure out how to actually fix it.
Still my Linux machine doesn’t nag me about restarts. The DE just pops up a notification one time saying it’s recommended.
it breaks the openvpn
It’s a version missmatch, that happens because of how linux handle updates, unless you either change kernel to a modified one that has a different behavior, you cannot fix it so it’s better to just restart after the kernel update
Shut down is only a power saving mode for quick boot from what i recall. Restart will actually stop everything.
Really? That’s silly. You would think the only difference is no power in between.
Just go through regedit and group policy settings for anything that feels like it’s going to update windows and disable it.
You really should be doing regular updates.
Disabling updates is dangerous and not recommended for a reason.
Windows updates break a shit ton of stuff, it’s best to wait any news about it breaking something for a few days
Back in normal times this was common sense but you’ve really gotta understand that microsoft is just shipping malware for its own systems lately. This vibe coded garbage is pretty debatably worth it, they obviously see their userbase as stand in QA testers
I’ll be the first one to say that I’ve left Windows in the dust for Linux almost 10 years ago. After losing 24-48 hours worth of work **twice** due to automatic updates (on a Windows 7 machine, running data recovery against a deleted partition on an external hard drive. When they took away the ability to have windows download updates but let me choose when to reboot), I swapped to Linux fulltime and have never looked back.
While Microsoft isn’t exactly setting records for user privacy, the answer to “Microsoft is installing things that track what I do for corporate interests” will never be “stop installing updates”. Microsoft is at least an entity you can hold legally responsible for damaging you. Refusing to install updates will only make that problem worse, not better.
I get that the Microsoft Hate bandwagon is a fun ride, but suggesting that users disable updates is bad advice, full stop.
Look, Microsoft left windows 10 to rot. The only update they’re shipping is the nag screen for Windows 11. When you get the update, it hogs all your ressources to download the entirety of Windows 11 and keep it in ram, only to show a blue screen that says “Your pc can’t run Windows 11”.
Click OK/cancel/whatever, doesn’t matter, because nothing happens. Then it repeats the whole downloading update procedure from the beginning next time you reboot.
If for some reason you need Windows on a less than brand new machine, then your only option is to disable updates or else it just won’t work.
Like it or not, Microsoft can do what they want with their operating system.
If you want that to not be the case, swap to Linux.
I’m not trying to defend Microsoft, I’m calling a spade a spade.
This is no different than back when Windows XP was pushed to End of Life, except maybe they’re more nagging about trying to get you on a secure platform vs letting you continue to use an unsecured one. Microsoft will not support every Windows version forever, there will always come a time where the ‘good’ Windows version is no longer supported.
Running an internet-connected computer and turning off updates is bad advice. Doesn’t matter if it’s desktop, laptop, server, cellphone, etc. You should install updates.
Deferring updates until you can make sure there will be no adverse consequences is good advice, but that isn’t what people are recommending here.
You definitely made the right call from any angle. Windows 11 is a roaring dumpster and not just because of the bloatware. 10 was pushing in bad directions but until 2034 there’s a stripped down industrial version for operating hospital equipment and the like with that will continue getting security updates. But this shit show has been circling the toilet since around when you left.
The problem isn’t the bloatware. Well that’s a problem but the real more pressing issue is Microsoft is letting their unholy Copilot write the damn updates. It keeps breaking people’s drivers or basic system stability, I wasn’t exaggerating about users have been recruited to QA. Even on my stripped down IoTC version people still got served an update that caused your username to manifest on my screen. Imagine that happening on somebody’s lab equipment or surgical monitor.
Maybe a hospital can take on the court case but I’ve been voiding my warranties since I graduated, that’s just not an option for me. I’m going back to the last stable update, airgapping my machine, and waiting for the sun to burn out or for Microslop to sober up and stop letting a chatbot drive the coding department. Maybe one of those two things will happen before Gates sees any legal recourse for nights spent on Epstein Island.
Imagine that happening on somebody’s lab equipment or surgical monitor.
There’s a reason why WSUS is a thing.
Maybe a hospital can take on the court case but I’ve been voiding my warranties since I graduated, that’s just not an option for me.
I’m not implying that end users should sue Microsoft, but Microsoft is an entity that is bound by US law, however flimsy that is nowadays.
The black hat hackers and script kiddies who will infect your machine if you don’t install updates aren’t. Microsoft won’t store CSAM on your computer, or add devices on your network to their DDOS botnet.
It does not matter how bad Microsoft is, turning off updates will always be the worse choice, and recommending that people do so is bad advice. Full stop.
I mean, that’s what the airgap is for. Honestly if a black hat goes to the trouble of storing whatever on my offline device or using it in their botnet they’ve pretty much earned it. I’m sure it will be very useful to them in this state
Look, dude,
You wanna live-on-the-edge and be reckless? You go ahead. I’m not trying to convince you to stop doing whatever you want with your stuff. We all have that “I know better than everyone else” phase. I had mine, too. Hopefully, when your wax wings melt, your fall won’t be ruinous either.
But you absolutely should stop recommending that other people turn off updates. That is objectively bad advice.
lol if users are QA then you don’t really have QA, or users.
IOW if users are QA, then who are the users?
Like there’s some class of ethereal divine spirits you will one day present with this pristine OS after fixing bugs identified by us useless flesh bags?
Precisely. They figure they can lay off their entire workforce, let copilot write the software, and then scrape all our machines for bug reports and logs.
Beats the previous business model of constantly terrorizing their devs to invent new problems to solve so that there’s always a new product to sell. Who knows how long before humans tried to unionize or something awful like that?
Appropriate username
