• mycodesucks@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    Lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas.

    If your story starts with “I believed in Musk’s vision” or “I voted for Trump” or some other asinine bullshit that everyone with a brain stem was telling you was stupid 10 years ago, you can take your sympathy fishing with you all the way to bankruptcy court.

    I hope your kids watch and internalize what a loser their parent is.

    • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
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      20 days ago

      I believed in Musk’s vision

      The idea has it’s pros and that’s why there’s a market. Autarq, paXos, SolteQ und Nelskamp are the competition.

      Sadly, in our case (scenic protected village core) they count still as solar, which isn’t allowed. They would make the most sense there. Our administration should get an update.

      And even if they all have gone bust at the end of their lifetime (~30 years), you’ll still have a roof.

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        19 days ago

        Sadly, in our case (scenic protected village core) they count still as solar, which isn’t allowed.

        pity. I had a chat with the founder of Autarq a while ago. According to him, in the market they’re selling to (Germany/central Europe) their solar tiles usually get accepted in exactly these scenarios (protected/historical buildings) — and it’s what keeps the company alive despite the significantly higher cost.

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        20 days ago

        The IDEA is great. The man who sold it to them is a known con-artist and liar and they had no shortage of warning before they got in bed with him.

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    20 days ago

    Musk’s pattern:

    • Overpromise
    • Reap investment dollars
    • Talk big talk
    • Before being called on to deliver, move on to the next thing to overpromise
    • Underdeliver, or just completely fail to deliver
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      19 days ago

      If you were to try that, you would end up in prison for fraud before you have your second chance. But of course, Muskie boie isn’t and never was part of the “poor peasants”.

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    21 days ago

    I can not fathom a world in which I would risk my money betting on the success of a Musk endeavor.

  • spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works
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    21 days ago

    Musk claimed that Tesla’s solar roof would be competitive with conventional roofing tiles when factoring in the value of the electricity generated and said the roof could potentially cost less than traditional roofing materials, especially high-end options like slate or clay tiles.

    Musk lies about everything and even tells us not to believe our eyes. Never forget he’s an actual Nazi:

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      20 days ago

      I know that gif really happened, but does that just so happen to be AI generated? Or has compression caused the colors in his jacket to blend into 8bit?

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      20 days ago

      We won’t even discuss the fundamental stupidity of putting tiles in the shade, or having a roof system exposed to the elements with hundreds of electrical plugs.

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        20 days ago

        Would be smarter to have non solar tiles in the same style to put in the parts of the roof that are not viable for energy production but I’m not Elon Musk leve genius

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      20 days ago

      Every time I see this clip and remember the original he’s trying to copy, I can’t help but guffaw at how pathetic an imitation it is. Don’t mistake this for endorsement, by any means, but the original had composure, posture, military , projected control and determination, all the ingredients for the image of strength he wanted to project.

      Musk? He has an edgy tryhard teenager’s imitation, biting his lip like he’s trying to look super focused, moving as if he’s trying to put feeling into it or whatever. It’s like the uncanny valley of parody: We know it’s not parody, but it’s also not really the original.

      It’s like “How do you do, fellow kids Nazis” except Buscemi doesn’t deserve being used as analogy for that. Nobody does, really.

      God, Musk is such a loser and it’s a mystery how he got as influential among young people as he did.

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        20 days ago

        i blame simcity 3000. it made me eco, and he was the only eco guy with a platform targeting teenagers in 2005

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        20 days ago

        God, Musk is such a loser and it’s a mystery how he got as influential among young people as he did.

        Reddit

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    21 days ago

    I was like “how does a solar roof kill Tesla, and why is it costing installers?” but no lol its saying Tesla discontinued the roof program.

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    21 days ago

    I liked the idea. It just couldn’t compete with much cheaper traditional panels. People weren’t willing to pay a premium for vanity. Also, I think people want to show off the panels, not hide them. I mean you can’t gloat about solar panels if no one can tell you have solar panels.

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      21 days ago

      The people that’d pay a premium for vanity just don’t get solar panels. The only people I could see going for this are tech bros. There’s lots of huge houses in my area that have regular solar panels. There’s lots of homebuyers here that don’t want to see panels or don’t want panels at all. And then there’s desparate people signing predatory solar panel leases. These tiles don’t fit it anywhere near me. I guess an alternate category would be people who must use a visible roof panel to get decent solar production, but plan to sell in a relatively short term. But still, their best option is inaction, not expensive solar. Especially if your electric supplier caps your output.

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      21 days ago

      It’s weird that you think nearly everyone wants to gloat about their solar panels.

      I want it to look good and I don’t give a shit whether anyone else knows they’re up there or not

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        20 days ago

        I want to gloat about them because I want everyone who can get them to do so. With 2026 technology the majority of residential energy should be produced on site.

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    20 days ago

    Tesla offloaded the hardest, least profitable part of the Solar Roof — the physical install and the customer relationship — onto small local companies, let them absorb the training and tooling costs, and then pulled the product out from under them. Tesla keeps a manageable warranty liability on 3,000 roofs. The installers keep the stranded investment, the abandoned pipelines, and the awkward job of servicing a discontinued product for the next two decades.

    And now all these goons will turn around and buy fleets of his scamtaxis and own all the risk, depreciation and liability when they start to mow down families

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      21 days ago

      It sometimes takes a while to cull the herd. All the losers will lose. Evolution at its finest.

      I just can’t figure how Musk got so far from his bubble. Money???

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        21 days ago

        Temporarily embarrassed millionaires are everywhere. Especially in the US. They’re all pathetic trash.

        They’re the sort that think Musk magically knows something simply because he is already rich.

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          20 days ago

          Evolution does not have a goal or direction, just variables. Winners win and loser lose.

          If it works it lives and if it doesn’t work it dies.

          The part of evolution that most people miss is TIME. Sometimes a mind numbing amount of time. More than our pitiful lifetimes amount of time.

          I can hardly wait.

    • Sludge@sh.itjust.works
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      20 days ago

      We had a solar company try to sell us on Tesla panels and we noped out because we didn’t have confidence in the company (this was before the Nazi stuff was more apparent). Glad we decided to forego that! (For many reasons, but this definitely solidifies it)

    • kingofras@lemmy.world
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      21 days ago

      The roof tiles was my last Tesla livestream event. Once he was done bragging about how he would fix a nonexistent problem, my suspicions he is a conman were confirmed.

      He’s literally a manchild throwing money at things and seeing which grows, just to gain more power and influence so he can one day rule the world like a cartoon villain. He’s mindblowingly simple to read.

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        21 days ago

        about how he would fix a nonexistent problem

        Nazi-Musk aside, Its not exactly a non-existent problem. Its just a very very small niche problem that doesn’t justify the tremendous resources poured into creating it. Its also an old problem that doesn’t exist much anymore.

        There was a time when solar panels were pretty ugly and expensive. Those two things would deter a certain number of people from installing panels. So the idea of cheap solar panels that matched the traditional look some buyers wanted did exist. Heavy emphasis on some buyers because it was a pretty small pool to begin with. What really made solar shingles largely irrelevant was the dramatic drop in cost of regular panels, the drastic increase in performance of regular panels, and the noticeably improved aesthetics of all-black regular panels. So the prior tiny market for solar shingles shrank even more, and the costs of Tesla solar shingles continued to rise without any performance improvements. It was a tiny market before and its a nearly non-existent market now. Solar shingles are bad business.

        Lastly, social attitudes changed and having solar panels on a roof switched largely from being seen as an eyesore to a point of pride for many. This last point isn’t totally solved yet. My own housing community doesn’t allow panels on the side of the house that faces the road…except in some circumstances (making the rule even more stupid).

        I’m looking forward to the day when I can slap some panels on the other side of the house for even greater solar generation! I’m still have no interest in solar shingles though.

  • tempest@lemmy.ca
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    21 days ago

    Does Vegas still have that stupid fucking tunnel that could have just been a train?