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    Their solution is probably gonna be game pass. Everyone is distracted by the anti-AI crusade but we should not forget the anti-Subscription crusade too !

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      They also fired thousands of workers who could have helped make shit more affordable or even improved Xbox. Now it’s going to be sold off, drawn and quartered.

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    Destroy entire industries through their corruption and greed; only to wonder over the debris why they are not making any more money. The capitalist brain is amazing.

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    Gaming is unaffordable? Yeah. GTA 6 is going to be $80, digital only, with single player locked behind a $100 price tag.

    Yeah. Gaming IS unaffordable.

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      GTA 6 is going to be $80, digital only, with single player locked behind a $100 price tag

      Single player is $80. A bunch of extra in-game trinkets are locked behind the $20 upsell.

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      A new game was 60 dollars when I was 8. Im 31 now. Inflation puts the pricetag around 100 bucks if they stayed roughly the same cost. If gaming is unaffordable now its been that way since at least 2005… There also wasn’t a robust indie/cheap game scene to the tune of 10s of thousands easily accessible back then. Be annoyed about a price increase I guess but it’s not like it’s unfair or unaffordable comparatively.

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        NES games were $80. Thats why most households usually only had 1-2 games.

        It wasn’t until resell shops came around that everyone sold their games, and bought 2-3 used games with that money.

        Video gaming was unaffordable in the 80s too. I think if you compare lifetime sales of most NES games to most modern games, you’ll find the trend was that if your game wasn’t mario, it didn’t sell all that well on the NES. Even Zelda in the early days had a rough start.

        Whereas these days, the industry has grown so much due to keeping prices relatively stable for 40 years. So now consoles sell more, games in general sell 10x more.

        Prop that price up and watch the sales fall.

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          80 dollars in 1980 is the equivalent of 330 dollars today~ish. You’re not grasping the inflation aspect I’m pointing to. When looking through that particular lense, video games are cheaper now relative to historical context than they’ve ever been. Not to mention literally every consumer good increases in price consistantly to match/overcome inflation. Video games are WAY behind every other consumer product I can think of in that regard. This is especially true when talking entertainment products.

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            I grasp what you’re saying. You’re not grasping what I’m saying.

            I’m saying as the price point came down through the 90s to $60, the amount of gamers went up.

            And as $60 in the 2000s was worth less, gaming exploded in popularity again.

            As it cost less, more people bought in. As costs rise, less people will buy.

            A combination of high price tags, and low quality games caused the entire market to crash in 1983. To the point where video games was considered dead as disco.

            We’re nowhere close to that point right now, but this is the first time in 40 years they’ve reversed direction. Games have gotten cheaper over time, and the industry grew. Now they’re making games more expensive. What is the logical outcome of that decision? If low prices make line go up, then high prices make line go…where?

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              You’re just so incorrect with logic so flawed in so many aspects there’s just nowhere this conversation can go. Good luck out there.

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        You really shouldn’t be downvoted for stating facts. Inflation is a real thing and prices of games have lagged significantly behind it for decades - that is an observable fact. The $60 price point was held static for almost two decades but inflation marches on, so in real terms most games are cheaper than ever.

        The one thing that kind of does make gaming unaffordable currently is hardware prices, but you can still do the indie gaming you mentioned on a cheaper PC so it’s mostly just the AAA market that is getting pricier.

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          The $60 price point was helped by the market expanding but that is going to be difficult with the hardware costs.

          Devs need to bring down production costs. They should be making games at PS2 quality instead of maxing out PS5 Pros.

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      Absolutely. As more manufacturers leave the consumer market for the lucrative DC market, cloud gaming will become the norm as most of us won’t be able to afford hardware at home… and that makes me really sad. We’ll start to see the end of homelabs and self-hosted software, as well as our gaming rigs. Nvidia and Microsoft both offer cloud gaming platforms and are both neck-deep in AI & AI hardware.

      We may also see DIY chips and new innovation to bypass the hardware availability problem, but as we become more reliant on AI/LLMs I worry that we’ll lose that innovation. The bubble pop cannot come soon enough.

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    It’s unaffordable for those who don’t sail the high seas and buy a new rig every year. I have one that’s probably more than 5 years old by now and the only games I retrieve don’t require the latest and greatest. Plus, there are games more than a decade old with good graphics. Things haven’t gotten terribly better since. This channel regularly showcases some.

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      Those are some great examples of old games that are real lookers, but quite frankly, I’m on a 5-year-old machine, and there are only a few of the latest games that have made it break a sweat. It runs most of the cutting edge games at high settings, high frame rates, and 1440p.

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    It wouldn’t actually be so bad if everything else wasn’t fast becoming unaffordable as well. If bills, rent, shopping and other expenses were not already sky high, then we might be able to afford the higher game prices.

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    To be honest, I haven’t read the article, but games have never been so cheap for me.

    When I was a kid, NES games were around CHF 120.-.

    Then as teenager they were around CHF 89.- on Playstation 2 or 3.

    Nowadays, my most expensive game on Playstation 5 was probably CHF 79.-.

    And on my Steam Deck, I don’t think I’ve paid more than CHF 20.- for a game.

    Related to inflation, my Playstation 3 was probably my most expensive console.

    Now it’s true that the hardware prices are increasing (bought my Playstation 5 at around CHF 500.- and I guess it’d be at least CHF 150.- more expensive now), but games have become cheaper over time in my country (Switzerland).

    I don’t know how much the Steam Machine is gonna be in Switzerland, but it’ll probably still be cheaper than a medium gaming PC was 10 years ago.