• TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 hours ago

    P word? Can’t say paedophile anymore because it hurts their feelings? Should we say “person who loves children more than me” instead?

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        I wasn’t aware that was a thing.

        Oh how creative of the British, to create a slur that’s half the name of people their heritage. Guess I’ll refer to the English as Engs from now on. “Oy bruv, it’s them Engs innit. Free the north of Ireland!

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            22 minutes ago

            You gave me a P and a long underscore line 🤷

            So it’s P * * *

            I don’t know, other than pedo. I give up.

            But reading from the article and comments it’s a British word that has something to do with Pakistanis. I’m not familiar with that word, I’m not from the UK and have never heard it during my visits there or in the British media I’ve watched (I’m Dutch). I knew the British in general are rather racist, but I didn’t know there was such targeted hate towards the Pakistanis. Wtf did they ever do to those colonistic inbred posh fucks eh?

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                14 minutes ago

                Yeah I got it from another reply. I didn’t know that was a thing. Certainly won’t say it. Fuck racism, fuck fascism.

                But ok ok, I’ll continue.

                Porn

                P O R N

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    19 hours ago

    Came here to find out what P word was. Saw that this was England and knew immediately.

    It’s comforting as an American to know that Europe is still in the running for who can be the most racist.

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        18 hours ago

        Nope. This is a denial of the reality of racism - which globally privileges pale skin over dark.

        You might be able to make a similar but worthless point about “prejudice” or something, but this kind of talk about racism is just wrong and harmful.

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          18 hours ago

          Imagine being this dumb and obstinate at the same time.

          Don’t worry buddy, I still believe you’re capable of learning and growing out of your beloved and hopelessly clutched ignorance.

          I’m rooting for you.

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        21 hours ago

        Huh til. Never heard this before. Gotta be honest tho I’m kinda surprised its a slur, don’t get me wrong I won’t be using it, but it does feel like a “good” shorthand for Pakistani.

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            4 hours ago

            Imagine me when I first got to Australia as an Englishman to see a big headline in the newspaper saying something like, “Pakis lose to England”.

            I was like, Whaaaaaaaaat !!!

            I’ve now been here 32 years and I sometimes explain to Aussies that Brits aren’t allowed to use that word, which they’re rather surprised about. Because as you said in your last two sentences.

            Cheers.

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          21 hours ago

          Seriously, I’ve heard people say “Pakis” as a short for Pakistani in a non-insulting way, similar to Spaniards or Aussies.

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            20 hours ago

            Funny enough it actually mentions in the Wikipedia article that most Americans are unfamiliar with the slur. I’ll be honest without this thread if I heard someone say it, I would probably have used it unknowingly just assuming it was similar to Aussie or something.

            This is not to make light of the slur, but if someone called me an “Ameri” I would probably just assume they’re French, which might be meaner than anything they’re trying to say to me.

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              the one person from spain that i knew told me not to use it. she said it was like using ‘chinaman’

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            18 hours ago

            I’ve heard people say “Pakis” as a short for Pakistani in a non-insulting way

            Non-insulting according to whom? Some people are so ingrained to racism that they don’t even sound racist. It’s like old people who say “negro” but don’t mean to offend. They’re just unconsciously recycling the racism in which they were indoctrinated.

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              17 hours ago

              As discussed in this thread, America doesnt really have the same historical racist context. I would not be shocked if Pakistani people here were okay with it because the context is different or i would not be shocked if American Pakistanis also didn’t know. This is not a defense of the word, I will not (and really have never used it) just idly noting that context is very important.

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          20 hours ago

          Here in Canada in the 00s I remember it being a really bad slur. I haven’t really heard it used at all since then though

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            19 hours ago

            Which is hilarious, because in new England a “packy” is a package store, which is a euphemism for a liquor store.

            So I got quite a few looks when I asked if we were going to “hit the packy” on the way to the party…

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          21 hours ago

          Very much not good in England. You might well think England did enough to fuck up that part of the world in '47. But no we still have to be a bucket load of racist cunts.

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            20 hours ago

            Its actually mildly interesting, are there other slurs that really wouldn’t be slurs in another country? The F slur would be one I suppose is just a cigarette for some people?

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                4 hours ago

                Lol. As an Englishman in Australia I do enjoy using that word. Spazzed out just means went a bit wild. Spastic drunk is fine too, well I think…

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              18 hours ago

              Cunt is a really nasty misogynist slur in the USA and a friendly mild ribbing in the UK and Australia.

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              Yeah “fag” is fine in context such as: “I’m just nipping out for a fag” “Can I bum a fag?”

              But you can’t say it to, or about, a person, well, unless you’re a homophobe.

              ‘faggot’ is almost always a slur though, you’d better be in that rare circumstance where you’re very clearly referring to a bundle of sticks otherwise, no.

              I guess ‘nip’ is also occasionally a racist slur for Japanese, but normally quite innocent; just something quick. or a pinch, or a wee dram.

              Vaguely related, you might be interested in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polari. A few British slang terms migrated out of queer-creoles into more mainstream usage , possibly via popular radio and tv.

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                15 hours ago

                A British comedian friend living in the U.S. used to (15-ish years ago) have a joke about asking a guy outside a bar in middle America if he could bum a fag.
                He would impersonate the most southern accent he could muster and say “I don’t care. Ain’t no business of mine.” As part of a joke about cultural differences/how the U.S. could be unexpectedly wholesome.

                Never asked if that was a true story. We fell out awhile ago.

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                18 hours ago

                “Just going to pop outside to smoke a removed” would not raise eyebrows in the UK.

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                19 hours ago

                oh yes I will be looking at that, thanks!

                edit: Another one (please someone correct any parts of this that are wrong). I believe in Korean “you” or some other way of addressing people sounds quite similar to the n-word.

                quick edit 2: though I guess different languages don’t really count in quite the same way, its similar though.

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      18 hours ago

      I login every now and then to troll. It’s amazing how much of a shithole that place is.

      But I agree that I shoudn’t login at all.

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    Every right wing website or mod ever.

    “We don’t allow [political posts, racism, etc] on this site.”

    Quietly allows offhand comments that are racist and political from right wingers, quickly tell people to shut up and deletes their posts if they call out the bullshit, especially if using objective data.

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    FFS, can we stop being so difficult? WHICH P word? Penis? Pencil? Pogostick? What N word?

    Can we just put the words there if we’re talking about specific words, so that not your entire readership needs to collectively guess what you’re talking about? Quote the words, if needed, but can we PLEASE stop censoring words, especially in news or educational context?

    These days even “d**th” gets censored because oh boy o god, if somebody uses the D word, we will be in trouble!

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      People on the internet who complain about “censorship” only come in two varieties.

      1. let’s hear the Nazi out

      2. Please say the bad word, dog I’m begging you, just say it. Let me say it.

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        The “letter-word” thing has always been weird for me as a non native English speaker.

        It reminded me to Voldemorts “He Who Shall Not Be Named” thing. I’m used to it now, but I think about it it’s still a weird thing.

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    Meh, X skews right-wing, sites like Lemmy skew left, every social media site uses censorship along the lines that their intended bubble-market prefers.

    Not exactly news, nor surprising in any way.

    Also not all that ‘tech’ oriented really, it’s more mundane political drivel.

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      So… Lemmy “skewing left” is the same as open racism on X? Give me a break.

      It might not be surprising, but fascism is always disgusting.

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        Lemmy skews left, and censors moderate views / comments. You’re generally ok in various areas to be openly hostile towards certain demographics – typically white people, cisgendered people or men in general. You can use pejorative language to describe those groups with impunity. You can get banned from lemmy sites for questioning left-leaning narratives. Functionally, it’s not that dissimilar.

        Censorship is used in part to cater a site to its market niche / audience. Whether you agree/disagree with a sites censorship approach, is generally based on whether you’re in that target audience / intended marketing bubble. If you’ve never been censored on a site for moderate views, you’re just squarely in the target group.

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      21 hours ago

      Have you not read the book? It’s not a warning about being too critical of the world’s richest bigot and political insider.

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          21 hours ago

          Do what now? Why would I go on that shithole? Why would I speak like a bigot? I have no idea what your point is in response to my comment. Has no one actually read that book but me? So weird.