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jankforlife@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 15 hours ago

The double standard

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The double standard

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jankforlife@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 15 hours ago
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  • ConstructiveVandalism@piefed.zip
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    14 hours ago

    Removed by mod

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      Where do you see jankforlife’s pronouns?

      • Horse {they/them}@lemmygrad.ml
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        in the misogyny hole


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          I know, just want them to have to admit that publicly, if possible. I find having people explain their views leads them to reconsidering them in cases like this more frequently than just nakedly calling them a misogynist would.

          • Horse {they/them}@lemmygrad.ml
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            13 hours ago

            fair, though piefeds can’t see me anyway afaik
            i’m a spooky ghost etc.

            specter


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              I think .Zip’s can!

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        Fangirl is gender neutral. But if you prefer fanperson I’m fine with it. Stop distracting from the topic that this person spams this feed with pro war propaganda

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          No? Girl is a clearly gendered term. I also don’t see how this is a “pro-war” meme.

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            No, it’s a stylistic piece in wording. But I get your confusion.

            Watch the recent history of OPs posts. It’s Pro Russian Spam.

            imho Accounts shouldn’t be allowed to post more than twice a day in the same community

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              Lol, there is literally nothing pro-Russian about this. It has a Russian flag with the implication that liberals see anything Russia does as a war crime even if the same kind of (or worse) atrocities committed by the US are deemed “unfortunate but necessary.” In other words, you don’t even have to accept that Russia isn’t committing war crimes to recognize the truth of the double standard the meme is pointing out. You are a prime example of the kind of dingus this meme is making fun of.

              You, a liberal glimpsing a hint of reality for once in their western-propaganda-saturated life: “Russian Propaganda! [misgendering and/or homophobia]! Putin disinformatzia! [Racism!]” You haven’t gotten to the racism part yet, but the thread is young. Here, I’ll help you along by explaining some facts for you: Russia entered an ongoing civil war and put a stop to the ethnic cleansing that the Nazi Ukrainian government was perpetrating against Ukraine’s eastern population who desperately wanted help from Russia. Fortunately, Russia entering the conflict prevented many more war crimes from being committed by the fascist Kiev regime.

              Edit to add because this is just funny:

              Accounts shouldn’t be allowed to post more than twice a day in the same community

              What a great way to stymie a community and cut down on the thing we all hate: content. Your inability to understand how the world works seems to extend even to the fundamentals of internet forums.

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                You really believe that Ukraine is a Nazi regime, and you accuse others for falling for propaganda? Yikes

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                  the american congress tried banned weapons sales to ukraine because of its nazis proclivities in 2015; how are you slower than congress on this?

                  • goferking (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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                    Didn’t they just have a state funeral/celebration of an actual Nazi?

                    https://www.timesofisrael.com/ukraine-reburies-nazi-collaborator-with-state-honors-drawing-israeli-condemnation/

                    Israel criticized Ukraine on Monday after President Volodymyr Zelensky gave full state honors to a Ukrainian nationalist leader who was part of a movement that collaborated with the Nazis during World War II.

                    Like they literally just celebrated a fucking nazi and Volodymyr Zelensky led it.

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                  Yes, and I believe it because I have been following what has been happening in Ukraine since well before February of 2022. The fact that you are unaware of this fact (even one recognized by western media before the SMO) is what is yikes. Thanks to u/freagle for providing some of the mountains of evidence demonstrating beyond all doubt that the Kiev regime is literally a Nazi regime, the most openly Nazi state regime in the world, in fact.

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                  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/11/ultranationalism-in-ukraine-a-photo-essay

                  https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/ukraine-has-nazi-problem-vladimir-putin-s-denazification-claim-war-ncna1290946

                  https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2015-06-12/ukraine-s-neo-nazis-won-t-get-u-s-money

                  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/10/azov-far-right-fighters-ukraine-neo-nazis

                  https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/world/europe/nazi-symbols-ukraine.html

                  https://www.reuters.com/article/world/in-ukraine-nationalists-gain-influence-and-scrutiny-idUSBREA2618D/

                  https://truthout.org/articles/nyt-discovers-ukraines-neo-nazis-at-war/

                  https://www.reuters.com/article/opinion/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TC/

                  https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/ukraine-s-got-a-real-problem-with-far-right-violence-and-no-rt-didn-t-write-this-headline/

                  https://thehill.com/opinion/international/359609-the-reality-of-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-is-far-from-kremlin-propaganda/

                  • goferking (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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                    Don’t forget (pick the least worse reporting publication)

                    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/24/world/europe/ukraine-melnyk-nationalist-collaborator.html

                    https://www.timesofisrael.com/ukraine-reburies-nazi-collaborator-with-state-honors-drawing-israeli-condemnation/

                    https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2026/06/04/zelensky-s-rehabilitation-of-controversial-figures-in-ukrainian-nationalism-sparks-anger-in-israel-and-poland_6754112_4.html

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              imho Accounts shouldn’t be allowed to post more than twice a day in the same community

              It’s a meme community. People will post more frequently here.

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                So you think 5 political propaganda posts in 10minutes by the same Person are good for the climate inside the community? Brave…

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              Girl is one of the most gendered terms, and calling someone who’s gender is unclear or otherwise not explicitly feminine a “fangirl” draws on misogynistic perceptions.

              Either way, I don’t think it’s unknown that OP is pro-Russian, but I don’t see how that translates to being pro-war.

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                Maybe it’s a language thing, I don’t wanna discuss this because this is not what my comment was about.

                By repeating Russian propaganda and lies that was used to justify attacking Ukraine, bombing hospitals and killing civilians.

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                  What lies are being repeated? It’s definitely pro-Russian, but what is the lie?

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                    It’s definitely pro-Russian, but what is the lie?

                    I don’t think it is. Not the meme anyway. u/jankforlife may be pro-Russian (which is the correct stance for any anti-imperialist to take) and post other memes that are pro-Russian, but this particular meme is neutral as to whether Russia is a positive or negative force in geopolitics. It’s just pointing out the double standard of western liberals. But yes, you are of course correct that there are no “lies” being repeated here, this piefed bootlicker is just throwing a tantrum about seeing a meme where Russia isn’t explicitly being compared to Mordor and Putin to Voldemort, and it’s breaking their propaganda-pickled brain.

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                    For example that Ukraine is a Nazi state

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                  Is the “Russian propaganda” in the room with you now?

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                You’re both right - it is a gendered noun, it is a genderless verb. The line has become blurred between the two distinctions, and ‘fangirl’ is often used as a genderless noun as well. “I am a [thing] fangirl” is a common phrasing online irrespective of gender.

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                  And the term itself relies on misogyny. Just because a word can be used in a certain fashion does not mean it should be.

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                    How, exactly? It’s a gendered term, but it’s not inherently derogatory based on gender. The term “fanboy” is the gender flipped equivalent.

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