I added this before you responded and I share it because I literally cannot find such a source and don’t want to believe that my pessimism is correct.

Surely there’s some source outside of captured media/institution somewhere like it is w Palestine if it exists

They’ll have legitimacy once they prosecute netanyahu.

Surely there’s some source outside of captured media/institution somewhere like it is w Palestine if it exists.

Less skill improvement and more trivial pursuits. Lol

I’ve been a Lemmy user for a little while now and my perceived short comings of it are starting to irk me like other IT systems started irking me and fixing them will make me life easier.

I know from experience that once I attain a level of mastery that’s sufficient to fix what I want to fix; then that level will stop increasing. :p

And now that you’ve given me license, I’m going to tell them to redirect the blame to you. Lol

I’m sure you know that Israel is just a proxy for the United States and Russia is responding to the United States in Ukraine.

There is documented evidence that Russia is committing acts of genocide in Ukraine.

I know that the context of this request doesn’t give much room for a genuine exchange without snark; but I’m genuinely interested in a source that doesn’t come from the West or any of it’s funded proxies like the national endowment for democracy or its captured institutions like the United nations.

It genuinely made me wonder if my rust is already good enough to let me start lending a hand on Lemmy.

I’ve been practicing but my python/ruby/java/c++ keep interrupting my hello world comprehension self tests.

Because the Palestine one has random people – not partisans – accidentally witness and share it w the world organically while the other not only doesn’t exist, but requires Western funding and a captured media to make people wonder if it might exist.

Up until this post; I had always assumed that my code was shit because I’ve never been formally educated on it and came from an IT background that emphasized just getting it to work over any other concerns like security.

But no; it can be so much worse and that has been one of the biggest surprises I’ve ever had; professionally speaking.

I support Ukraine and I also support Palestine.

How does one support one colonial empire’s project, but not the other while maintaining legitimacy?

i always though it was odd that they didn’t bother in texas; but want to meet at hidden/clandestine locations in california. lol

my cat puts his butt in my face to get me to stop. lol

jokes on you, i’m incapable of ordering the magnitude of my fuckups. lol

sounds fitting for you. lol

don’t worry; they already know who you are. lol

it’s not just ai or training data for it; it’s developers themselves too, including fediverse ones.

the biggest non-ai/training examples that i can think of came from times before ai was ever a thing like:

• usps had difficulty validating addresses because the software they obtained assumed euro-centric naming schema

• airlines, health care providers, hotels, and state motor vehicle departments rejected registration/reservations because trans people have to option to select their sex

• health care providers misdosed patients because the software they used didn’t account for highly-athletic/bodybuilding people or people with chronic conditions

there are SO MANY examples out there where the bias clearly comes from the developer instead of the training data and there’s no way that any piefed developer is immune or can even effectively mitigate their biases.

this person and one other have replied to me; they’re avoiding interacting with me. lol

agreed. if they stopped and realized that lesser evil is still evil, they would stop trying to defend it.

you’re conflating “refusing to play” with “choosing not to pull the lever.” choosing not to pull the lever still accepts the framing. it still says “these are the only tracks, this is the only lever, so my only choice is yes or no.”

actual refusal means rejecting the premise entirely. it means organizing outside the trolley and/or building a world where the trolley doesn’t run in the first place.

you say there’s no magical third choice. that’s exactly what people said to the abolitionists and the suffragettes and to everyone else who ever refused a rigged game, but built a new one anyway.

so no, refusing to play isn’t playing along. it’s the first real move anyone makes when they stop believing the lever is the only tool in existence.

now whose being deceitful? you completely skipped the 38 million figure. not a word. that’s not an accident or an oversight. that’s how this system wants you to see it. that’s the body count of your “pragmatism” – people killed by us sanctions, not genocides or ethnic cleansing like everyone else is talking about here. just policy, managed death and you call it “mitigating damage.”

you say refusing to vote does nothing. but what has voting done? the system you’re defending has killed atleast 38 million people outside american borders while saving dramatically fewer inside. that’s not a trade-off. that’s a slaughter you’ve learned to call realism.

you say “managing genocide is better than nothing.” but managing genocide IS genocide. slower, cleaner, easier to ignore like the democrats prefer it. you’re not pulling a lever to save people. you’re pulling a lever to feel like you tried while simultaneously legitmizing more tracks getting laid.

and here’s the biggest dodge: you say “when you have a strategy to actually make a difference, i’m all ears.” i don’t have a plan, but marxists have a plan and it’s been around for almost 2 centuries now. it’s called refusing to legitimize the system, building dual power, organizing outside the two-party death cult, and ultimately abolishing the conditions that make genocide a natural outcome. it’s fine to disagree with it, but don’t pretend the only choices are lever a or lever b.

you’ve already decided that anything outside voting for the lesser evil isn’t a strategy. that’s not pragmatism; it’s learned helplessness with a moral license.

also refusal to cooperate isn’t plugging your ears. refusal is the only leverage people have when the game is this rigged. you don’t delegitimize a system by playing along; you delegitimize it by withdrawing cooperation. that’s not childish; it’s literally how every actual movement for abolition in history started – by refusing to play.

so no, i don’t have a plan to stop the train tomorrow with a single vote. neither do you. the difference is i’m not pretending my lever-pulling is saving anyone while atleast 38 million lie dead at the feet of your “realism.” and at least leftists are actually building something instead of just managing the bleeding.

you’re proving my point here without realizing it.

the two tracks are an american framing. pull the lever or don’t. vote for the lesser evil or don’t. those are the only choices your system lets you consider.

but here’s what you’re missing: both tracks were laid by the same people fostering the genocide. the lever is a prop. “pulling it” doesn’t stop the train; it just makes you feel like you did something.

and here’s the part many won’t touch: the same system you’re defending as “pragmatic” has a body count outside your borders that dwarfs anything it saves inside them. a conservative estimate puts the number of people killed by us sanctions alone at 38 million over 50 years (and that’s ignoring the genocides and ethnic cleansings). that’s not a rounding error. that’s more people than the population of canada. that’s the cost of your “realism.”

furthermore, consider the numbers most americans care about: how many americans has the system saved by being “pragmatic” inside the voting booth? because 38 million dead outside vs. dramatically less inside – that’s not a trade-off; that’s a slaughter masked as strategy.

western teleologists have self groomed themselves into thinking pragmatism means picking between two options handed down by the ruling class. anything outside that frame gets called “virtue signaling” or “immature” because it threatens the real game: managing genocide, not ending it.

deontology isn’t about clean hands. it’s about refusal to legitimize a system where genocide is a natural outcome. and that refusal isn’t inaction – it’s the foundation of any actual alternative. you can’t build a track that doesn’t lead to a better destination if you keep praising people for getting good at pulling the lever.

also the person who refuse isn’t plugging their ears; they’re saying the whole track-switching game is rigged so they’re not going to cooperate. that’s not self-centered. that’s the only sane response to a system that made you believe the two tracks is the only world that exists.

i’m somehow disappointed that i didn’t make the list. lol