Lol, there is literally nothing pro-Russian about this. It has a Russian flag with the implication that liberals see anything Russia does as a war crime even if the same kind of (or worse) atrocities committed by the US are deemed “unfortunate but necessary.” In other words, you don’t even have to accept that Russia isn’t committing war crimes to recognize the truth of the double standard the meme is pointing out. You are a prime example of the kind of dingus this meme is making fun of.
You, a liberal glimpsing a hint of reality for once in their western-propaganda-saturated life: “Russian Propaganda! [misgendering and/or homophobia]! Putin disinformatzia! [Racism!]” You haven’t gotten to the racism part yet, but the thread is young. Here, I’ll help you along by explaining some facts for you: Russia entered an ongoing civil war and put a stop to the ethnic cleansing that the Nazi Ukrainian government was perpetrating against Ukraine’s eastern population who desperately wanted help from Russia. Fortunately, Russia entering the conflict prevented many more war crimes from being committed by the fascist Kiev regime.
Edit to add because this is just funny:
Accounts shouldn’t be allowed to post more than twice a day in the same community
What a great way to stymie a community and cut down on the thing we all hate: content. Your inability to understand how the world works seems to extend even to the fundamentals of internet forums.
Israel criticized Ukraine on Monday after President Volodymyr Zelensky gave full state honors to a Ukrainian nationalist leader who was part of a movement that collaborated with the Nazis during World War II.
Like they literally just celebrated a fucking nazi and Volodymyr Zelensky led it.
Yes, and I believe it because I have been following what has been happening in Ukraine since well before February of 2022. The fact that you are unaware of this fact (even one recognized by western media before the SMO) is what is yikes. Thanks to u/freagle for providing some of the mountains of evidence demonstrating beyond all doubt that the Kiev regime is literally a Nazi regime, the most openly Nazi state regime in the world, in fact.
Okay so some of your (both of yours) links require subscriptions and in not paying, but the about 5 articles I read exclusively talked about the Azov and one talked about the Colonel Melnyk reburial. Calling a Nazi collaborator from 1940s a hero is obviously a bad look, but that does not equal modern day Ukraine being Nazis.
And literally all the other articles talk about some sort of far-right volunteer group of militias (Azov) fighting the Russian separatists. How is Azovs political standpoint in any way indicative of the Ukrainian state’s political view as a whole?
Girl is one of the most gendered terms, and calling someone who’s gender is unclear or otherwise not explicitly feminine a “fangirl” draws on misogynistic perceptions.
Either way, I don’t think it’s unknown that OP is pro-Russian, but I don’t see how that translates to being pro-war.
I don’t think it is. Not the meme anyway. u/jankforlife may be pro-Russian (which is the correct stance for any anti-imperialist to take) and post other memes that are pro-Russian, but this particular meme is neutral as to whether Russia is a positive or negative force in geopolitics. It’s just pointing out the double standard of western liberals. But yes, you are of course correct that there are no “lies” being repeated here, this piefed bootlicker is just throwing a tantrum about seeing a meme where Russia isn’t explicitly being compared to Mordor and Putin to Voldemort, and it’s breaking their propaganda-pickled brain.
It’s not a lie, it’s an easily demonstrable fact. But the meme that you are whining and pissing yourself about says nothing about the fact that Ukraine is a Nazi state (which it is). All it says is that there is a common double standard to what many people (presumably western liberals) think what constitutes a “war crime” vs an “unfortunate but necessary” act depending on whether that act was performed by one of the US’s enemies or by the US and its ally regimes. You are just looking for something to throw a fit about.
Dude (or Dudette/Dudettex, before someone shifts the conversation again to gender related topics), having far right/nationalistic groups inside your country doesn’t mean it’s a Nazi-state. Otherwise almost every country of the world would be one. Especially also Russia.
Also me picking this particular post wasn‘t about this particular meme but because it was the 4th or 5th post of OP in my timeline in few minutes. It was spam. And the other ones were way more specific about Ukraine = Nazi.
if you want my personal opinion about this meme and the other countries:
USA in Iran is a stupid, unjustified war/attack to distract from US-national politics, problems and child rape. Still Iran government is also inhumane to its own people, but US is making worse currently
Russia attacking Ukraine is a stupid, unjustified war because of an old dictator thinking he is god. So many war crimes and civilian deaths and the only person able to stop it sits in Russia. When Russian troops are 100% back in Russia and Ukraine is still trying to capture more land we can talk about them. Till then, it’s completely about Russia. Ukraine didn’t start the fight, they are still defending their own territory.
Israel is committing war crimes and genocide in Palestine.
China isn’t related at all currently. As long as they don’t invade Taiwan and their troops stay on Chinese ground, there is no sense at all to include them in this meme
President Volodymyr Zelensky provided full state honors for the ritual, signaling a deep shift in Ukrainian politics after Russia’s invasion in 2022. Before then, Mr. Zelensky had kept nationalist politics at arm’s length; in the reburial, he embraced them.
You’re both right - it is a gendered noun, it is a genderless verb. The line has become blurred between the two distinctions, and ‘fangirl’ is often used as a genderless noun as well. “I am a [thing] fangirl” is a common phrasing online irrespective of gender.
Using fangirl on someone of unspecified gender is clearly gendering the behavior attempted to be called out. One could just as easily call someone a sycophant without resorting to needlessly gendered terms.
While I agree that in an ideal world we wouldn’t feel the need to use gendered terms (in english I should say, lest we pull an imperialism on gendered languages), the use of a gendered term really isn’t in-of-itself misogyny.
Hey, look, a real world example demonstrating why your worldview is not up to the task of dealing with reality!
Patriarchy is a huge ancient oppressive system. One of the domains of patriarchy is language, specifically embedding the gender binary and misogyny into both denotative and connotative meaning. Hysterical literally means “crazy the way a woman is crazy”.
Addressing the oppression of patriarchy and its effects on language by working to move beyond the gendered binary and the misogyny is not in any way, shape, or form imperialism or analogous to imperialism.
When you undo the harm of oppression, that it not doing an oppression. When you fight back against imperialists, that is not imperialism. When you work against racism, that is not racism. And when you fight against patriarchy, it’s not feminine patriarchy.
This isn’t use of a gendered term in a vacuum. Sure, “Fangirl” is not necessarily a bad thing to call someone in appropriate context, but as always, context makes all the difference. In the context here, the person who used the term is clearly using “fan-x” to be a negative thing. Completely removing gender from the equation, they clearly think it is both wrong and disgusting that someone be a “fan” of Russia. Even without gender, the “fanboy” or “fangirl” term as it is being used here is dripping with condescension and disdain. The fact that they specifically added “girl” to it while having no indication of the actual gender of the person they were referring to is not just some innocent “oh hey let’s be equitable this might be someone who has feminine gender expression.” They added the “girl” on as a way to add more disparagement to the term they were already using as an insult. That is misogyny.
This isn’t hard, and the presence of misogyny should be obvious to anyone, even if they might be hard pressed to pick it apart and explain why. That you are going into this pedantic redditor debate pervert defense of it really brings your own motive into question.
No? Girl is a clearly gendered term. I also don’t see how this is a “pro-war” meme.
No, it’s a stylistic piece in wording. But I get your confusion.
Watch the recent history of OPs posts. It’s Pro Russian Spam.
imho Accounts shouldn’t be allowed to post more than twice a day in the same community
Lol, there is literally nothing pro-Russian about this. It has a Russian flag with the implication that liberals see anything Russia does as a war crime even if the same kind of (or worse) atrocities committed by the US are deemed “unfortunate but necessary.” In other words, you don’t even have to accept that Russia isn’t committing war crimes to recognize the truth of the double standard the meme is pointing out. You are a prime example of the kind of dingus this meme is making fun of.
You, a liberal glimpsing a hint of reality for once in their western-propaganda-saturated life: “Russian Propaganda! [misgendering and/or homophobia]! Putin disinformatzia! [Racism!]” You haven’t gotten to the racism part yet, but the thread is young. Here, I’ll help you along by explaining some facts for you: Russia entered an ongoing civil war and put a stop to the ethnic cleansing that the Nazi Ukrainian government was perpetrating against Ukraine’s eastern population who desperately wanted help from Russia. Fortunately, Russia entering the conflict prevented many more war crimes from being committed by the fascist Kiev regime.
Edit to add because this is just funny:
What a great way to stymie a community and cut down on the thing we all hate: content. Your inability to understand how the world works seems to extend even to the fundamentals of internet forums.
You really believe that Ukraine is a Nazi regime, and you accuse others for falling for propaganda? Yikes
the american congress tried banned weapons sales to ukraine because of its nazis proclivities in 2015; how are you slower than congress on this?
Didn’t they just have a state funeral/celebration of an actual Nazi?
https://www.timesofisrael.com/ukraine-reburies-nazi-collaborator-with-state-honors-drawing-israeli-condemnation/
Like they literally just celebrated a fucking nazi and Volodymyr Zelensky led it.
yes both poland and isreal already sent their own diplomatic fuck-you responses lol
Yes, and I believe it because I have been following what has been happening in Ukraine since well before February of 2022. The fact that you are unaware of this fact (even one recognized by western media before the SMO) is what is yikes. Thanks to u/freagle for providing some of the mountains of evidence demonstrating beyond all doubt that the Kiev regime is literally a Nazi regime, the most openly Nazi state regime in the world, in fact.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/11/ultranationalism-in-ukraine-a-photo-essay
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/ukraine-has-nazi-problem-vladimir-putin-s-denazification-claim-war-ncna1290946
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2015-06-12/ukraine-s-neo-nazis-won-t-get-u-s-money
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/10/azov-far-right-fighters-ukraine-neo-nazis
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/world/europe/nazi-symbols-ukraine.html
https://www.reuters.com/article/world/in-ukraine-nationalists-gain-influence-and-scrutiny-idUSBREA2618D/
https://truthout.org/articles/nyt-discovers-ukraines-neo-nazis-at-war/
https://www.reuters.com/article/opinion/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TC/
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/ukraine-s-got-a-real-problem-with-far-right-violence-and-no-rt-didn-t-write-this-headline/
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/359609-the-reality-of-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-is-far-from-kremlin-propaganda/
Don’t forget (pick the least worse reporting publication)
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/24/world/europe/ukraine-melnyk-nationalist-collaborator.html
https://www.timesofisrael.com/ukraine-reburies-nazi-collaborator-with-state-honors-drawing-israeli-condemnation/
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2026/06/04/zelensky-s-rehabilitation-of-controversial-figures-in-ukrainian-nationalism-sparks-anger-in-israel-and-poland_6754112_4.html
Okay so some of your (both of yours) links require subscriptions and in not paying, but the about 5 articles I read exclusively talked about the Azov and one talked about the Colonel Melnyk reburial. Calling a Nazi collaborator from 1940s a hero is obviously a bad look, but that does not equal modern day Ukraine being Nazis.
And literally all the other articles talk about some sort of far-right volunteer group of militias (Azov) fighting the Russian separatists. How is Azovs political standpoint in any way indicative of the Ukrainian state’s political view as a whole?
Good luck to you guys!
It’s a meme community. People will post more frequently here.
So you think 5 political propaganda posts in 10minutes by the same Person are good for the climate inside the community? Brave…
Girl is one of the most gendered terms, and calling someone who’s gender is unclear or otherwise not explicitly feminine a “fangirl” draws on misogynistic perceptions.
Either way, I don’t think it’s unknown that OP is pro-Russian, but I don’t see how that translates to being pro-war.
Maybe it’s a language thing, I don’t wanna discuss this because this is not what my comment was about.
By repeating Russian propaganda and lies that was used to justify attacking Ukraine, bombing hospitals and killing civilians.
What lies are being repeated? It’s definitely pro-Russian, but what is the lie?
I don’t think it is. Not the meme anyway. u/jankforlife may be pro-Russian (which is the correct stance for any anti-imperialist to take) and post other memes that are pro-Russian, but this particular meme is neutral as to whether Russia is a positive or negative force in geopolitics. It’s just pointing out the double standard of western liberals. But yes, you are of course correct that there are no “lies” being repeated here, this piefed bootlicker is just throwing a tantrum about seeing a meme where Russia isn’t explicitly being compared to Mordor and Putin to Voldemort, and it’s breaking their propaganda-pickled brain.
Anti imperialistic is pro Russian? Are you insane? Russia itself is a country with one of the most imperialistic track records in recent history.
Wake up, it’s not 1950 anymore. It’s not USA vs. Russia and you have to pick one side. You can outcall them both. You should!
Fair enough!
For example that Ukraine is a Nazi state
It’s not a lie, it’s an easily demonstrable fact. But the meme that you are whining and pissing yourself about says nothing about the fact that Ukraine is a Nazi state (which it is). All it says is that there is a common double standard to what many people (presumably western liberals) think what constitutes a “war crime” vs an “unfortunate but necessary” act depending on whether that act was performed by one of the US’s enemies or by the US and its ally regimes. You are just looking for something to throw a fit about.
Dude (or Dudette/Dudettex, before someone shifts the conversation again to gender related topics), having far right/nationalistic groups inside your country doesn’t mean it’s a Nazi-state. Otherwise almost every country of the world would be one. Especially also Russia.
Also me picking this particular post wasn‘t about this particular meme but because it was the 4th or 5th post of OP in my timeline in few minutes. It was spam. And the other ones were way more specific about Ukraine = Nazi.
if you want my personal opinion about this meme and the other countries:
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/24/world/europe/ukraine-melnyk-nationalist-collaborator.html
That isn’t a lie though, since 2014 Ukraine has been governed by Banderites that uphold Nazi collaborators like Stepan Bandera.
Is the “Russian propaganda” in the room with you now?
You’re both right - it is a gendered noun, it is a genderless verb. The line has become blurred between the two distinctions, and ‘fangirl’ is often used as a genderless noun as well. “I am a [thing] fangirl” is a common phrasing online irrespective of gender.
And the term itself relies on misogyny. Just because a word can be used in a certain fashion does not mean it should be.
How, exactly? It’s a gendered term, but it’s not inherently derogatory based on gender. The term “fanboy” is the gender flipped equivalent.
Using fangirl on someone of unspecified gender is clearly gendering the behavior attempted to be called out. One could just as easily call someone a sycophant without resorting to needlessly gendered terms.
While I agree that in an ideal world we wouldn’t feel the need to use gendered terms (in english I should say, lest we pull an imperialism on gendered languages), the use of a gendered term really isn’t in-of-itself misogyny.
Hey, look, a real world example demonstrating why your worldview is not up to the task of dealing with reality!
Patriarchy is a huge ancient oppressive system. One of the domains of patriarchy is language, specifically embedding the gender binary and misogyny into both denotative and connotative meaning. Hysterical literally means “crazy the way a woman is crazy”.
Addressing the oppression of patriarchy and its effects on language by working to move beyond the gendered binary and the misogyny is not in any way, shape, or form imperialism or analogous to imperialism.
When you undo the harm of oppression, that it not doing an oppression. When you fight back against imperialists, that is not imperialism. When you work against racism, that is not racism. And when you fight against patriarchy, it’s not feminine patriarchy.
This isn’t use of a gendered term in a vacuum. Sure, “Fangirl” is not necessarily a bad thing to call someone in appropriate context, but as always, context makes all the difference. In the context here, the person who used the term is clearly using “fan-x” to be a negative thing. Completely removing gender from the equation, they clearly think it is both wrong and disgusting that someone be a “fan” of Russia. Even without gender, the “fanboy” or “fangirl” term as it is being used here is dripping with condescension and disdain. The fact that they specifically added “girl” to it while having no indication of the actual gender of the person they were referring to is not just some innocent “oh hey let’s be equitable this might be someone who has feminine gender expression.” They added the “girl” on as a way to add more disparagement to the term they were already using as an insult. That is misogyny.
This isn’t hard, and the presence of misogyny should be obvious to anyone, even if they might be hard pressed to pick it apart and explain why. That you are going into this pedantic redditor debate pervert defense of it really brings your own motive into question.
You can use genderless terms like sycophant.