• ConstructiveVandalism@piefed.zip
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    12 hours ago

    Maybe it’s a language thing, I don’t wanna discuss this because this is not what my comment was about.

    By repeating Russian propaganda and lies that was used to justify attacking Ukraine, bombing hospitals and killing civilians.

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        12 hours ago

        It’s definitely pro-Russian, but what is the lie?

        I don’t think it is. Not the meme anyway. u/jankforlife may be pro-Russian (which is the correct stance for any anti-imperialist to take) and post other memes that are pro-Russian, but this particular meme is neutral as to whether Russia is a positive or negative force in geopolitics. It’s just pointing out the double standard of western liberals. But yes, you are of course correct that there are no “lies” being repeated here, this piefed bootlicker is just throwing a tantrum about seeing a meme where Russia isn’t explicitly being compared to Mordor and Putin to Voldemort, and it’s breaking their propaganda-pickled brain.

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          1 hour ago

          Anti imperialistic is pro Russian? Are you insane? Russia itself is a country with one of the most imperialistic track records in recent history.

          Wake up, it’s not 1950 anymore. It’s not USA vs. Russia and you have to pick one side. You can outcall them both. You should!

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          11 hours ago

          It’s not a lie, it’s an easily demonstrable fact. But the meme that you are whining and pissing yourself about says nothing about the fact that Ukraine is a Nazi state (which it is). All it says is that there is a common double standard to what many people (presumably western liberals) think what constitutes a “war crime” vs an “unfortunate but necessary” act depending on whether that act was performed by one of the US’s enemies or by the US and its ally regimes. You are just looking for something to throw a fit about.

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            1 hour ago

            Dude (or Dudette/Dudettex, before someone shifts the conversation again to gender related topics), having far right/nationalistic groups inside your country doesn’t mean it’s a Nazi-state. Otherwise almost every country of the world would be one. Especially also Russia.

            Also me picking this particular post wasn‘t about this particular meme but because it was the 4th or 5th post of OP in my timeline in few minutes. It was spam. And the other ones were way more specific about Ukraine = Nazi.

            if you want my personal opinion about this meme and the other countries:

            • USA in Iran is a stupid, unjustified war/attack to distract from US-national politics, problems and child rape. Still Iran government is also inhumane to its own people, but US is making worse currently
            • Russia attacking Ukraine is a stupid, unjustified war because of an old dictator thinking he is god. So many war crimes and civilian deaths and the only person able to stop it sits in Russia. When Russian troops are 100% back in Russia and Ukraine is still trying to capture more land we can talk about them. Till then, it’s completely about Russia. Ukraine didn’t start the fight, they are still defending their own territory.
            • Israel is committing war crimes and genocide in Palestine.
            • China isn’t related at all currently. As long as they don’t invade Taiwan and their troops stay on Chinese ground, there is no sense at all to include them in this meme
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          11 hours ago

          That isn’t a lie though, since 2014 Ukraine has been governed by Banderites that uphold Nazi collaborators like Stepan Bandera.