Nah, if I have kids (once the economy allows me to do so without being on the verge of bankruptcy), I’m giving them a Karri Messenger 1 to start out with, then the Messenger 2:
https://karri.io/collections/all
Kissing Jesus on the cheek is totally not gay my dudes! In face, if you wanna kill people who are like Jesus, just kiss em on the cheek! That’ll show the police officers that you’re an American born cisgender hetero white dude who is totally not gay and will send Trump haters to die./s
And Jesus says literally everyone is sick and the only cure is to embrace selfless love for all. So why are they pretending they can fix it with draconian authoritarian dipshittery?
Oh, right, it’s because they don’t care about Christ, they’re just leaning on the social leverage provided by espousing a Christian identity. My mistake.
So long as it is voluntary, I’m alright with it. Let people choose what’s best for themselves. If it attempts to get codified into law, that’s a different matter.
Is it voluntary? How voluntary? Is it voluntary like, something a random stranger might decide is best for them, or voluntary like someone was raised by an abusive religious family so this seems normal to them despite science proving it wrong? Voluntary like someone convinced them they’d go to eternal damnation if they didn’t go along with it?
You can, but can everyone? We’re talking about a demographic that only exists because they’re hypocrites who enforce their religion of peace through violence at every level of society. I don’t care if you think they have a choice because I already know how they feel like they have no other choice at all, because of the forces which shaped their worldview.
There’s nothing voluntary about it for the target audience, and that’s the only reason it could ever possibly succeed.
That’s a different question with all the laws passed since 9/11 revolving around random people being able to easily get a phone with no ID, no bank account, etc like they are going to the store to get a gallon of milk. The patriot act can die in a fire. If you want to affect change to make smuggling an unrestricted phone to someone in a cult, the patriot act has to go.
I’m not certain that spending time on networks that are “void of lgbt, void of the trans” is the doctor that these people need to cure them of their transphobia and homophobia.
Medical experts have come around to homosexuality not being a disease since the 70’s (in USA) so I’d hope the mentality you speak of is diminished now.
Freud would give you a long diatribe about the distinction between Id, Ego, and Superego.
You can believe a thing is wrong and still do it. Ask any smoker. You can do a thing and wrestle with the psychological consequences afterwards. Ask anyone who has ever felt guilty. You can plan to behave a certain way and become derailed by impulses or anxiety. Ask anyone who has ever succumbed to fear or pain.
Self-policing is a logical response to an illogical/immoral impulse. Tossing cookies out of the cabinet and ice cream out of the fridge is the first step towards dieting. Cancelling your credit card is a technique to curb impulsive spending. How is this any different?
Can we please not. I don’t bring up hylomorphism when I talk about physics, so can you please give psychology a similar dignity by treating it like an actual science?
I don’t bring up hylomorphism when I talk about physics
Psychology isn’t a question of physics. The complex machine that is the human brain isn’t some single-action lever with a discrete well-defined input/output relationship. Neither is the human brain some binary circuit governed by logic gates and trivially deterministic sequences.
At some point, you have to approach psychology experimentally. You can’t just wave your hands and assume you know how the black box of the mind is going to work. And you can’t dismiss the accumulated experimental data because you don’t like the person who spearheaded its compilation.
And you can’t dismiss the accumulated experimental data
I don’t. I actually read psychology meta-analyses about accumulated experimental data, and relatively few individual papers are using terms like “superego” (and I can find two meta-analyses, one of which is just describing psychoanalysis). Even then, it’s within a modern framework of psychoanalysis which has evolved over 100 years, not regurgitating what they think “Freud would say”. You’re citing Freud specifically by literally saying “here’s what Freud would say”, so don’t strawman me by pretending I’m anti-experimental data or whatever the fuck.
Psychology isn’t a question of physics.
I’m not saying it is; it’s an emergent phenomenon in a chain thereof. I’m saying it is a science that deserves to actually be taken seriously, not mired in “here’s what someone who barely understood the field as we understand it today would’ve said” like that holds literally any weight about why people behave the way they do.
If you have to self-police like that, your followers don’t believe in the morals you preach.
Bet you anything a lot of people using it will be parents forcing their kids to
Nah, if I have kids (once the economy allows me to do so without being on the verge of bankruptcy), I’m giving them a Karri Messenger 1 to start out with, then the Messenger 2: https://karri.io/collections/all
Then when they’re older: Light Phone: https://www.thelightphone.com/
If they absolutely need a phone like the other kids, or when they’re 16-18, they’re getting a phone with GrapheneOS on it.
Reminds me of being asked how I keep from murdering and raping people, since I do not believe in an eternal damnation.
scary people, if religion is only thing that keeps them from doing that, which that question implies.
What do you mean being a good person is its own reward?!?
I think this network will primarily be used by parents to keep their kids from being tempted into sin or discovering that queer people exist
They’re gonna be shocked to find out that Jesus shared his body with 12 other men.
One of which spent an awful lot of time literally cuddling Jesus.
Kissing Jesus on the cheek is totally not gay my dudes! In face, if you wanna kill people who are like Jesus, just kiss em on the cheek! That’ll show the police officers that you’re an American born cisgender hetero white dude who is totally not gay and will send Trump haters to die./s
So they’ll never know that people of the same sex fuck each other and continue to perpetuate hate towards them. Now that is sin.
If you have to self police like that, you might have a gay porn problem.
If history is any indicator … lol
The thought is it is the sick that need a doctor
And Jesus says literally everyone is sick and the only cure is to embrace selfless love for all. So why are they pretending they can fix it with draconian authoritarian dipshittery?
Oh, right, it’s because they don’t care about Christ, they’re just leaning on the social leverage provided by espousing a Christian identity. My mistake.
So long as it is voluntary, I’m alright with it. Let people choose what’s best for themselves. If it attempts to get codified into law, that’s a different matter.
Is it voluntary? How voluntary? Is it voluntary like, something a random stranger might decide is best for them, or voluntary like someone was raised by an abusive religious family so this seems normal to them despite science proving it wrong? Voluntary like someone convinced them they’d go to eternal damnation if they didn’t go along with it?
Voluntary as in I can choose a different mobile operator.
You can, but can everyone? We’re talking about a demographic that only exists because they’re hypocrites who enforce their religion of peace through violence at every level of society. I don’t care if you think they have a choice because I already know how they feel like they have no other choice at all, because of the forces which shaped their worldview.
There’s nothing voluntary about it for the target audience, and that’s the only reason it could ever possibly succeed.
That’s a different question with all the laws passed since 9/11 revolving around random people being able to easily get a phone with no ID, no bank account, etc like they are going to the store to get a gallon of milk. The patriot act can die in a fire. If you want to affect change to make smuggling an unrestricted phone to someone in a cult, the patriot act has to go.
No, it’s not a different question, it’s just looking at the issue from further away than halfway up your nose.
I’m not certain that spending time on networks that are “void of lgbt, void of the trans” is the doctor that these people need to cure them of their transphobia and homophobia.
People not like me are evil! Being constantly hateful about nature … their “god’s” own invention. How blasphemous.
Right, but their mentality is that it is a disease. Also I think the saying “an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure” applies here.
Their mentality is wrong, and being lgbt neither needs preventing nor curing.
Thank you
I never said it was right, it’s just thier mentality
Medical experts have come around to homosexuality not being a disease since the 70’s (in USA) so I’d hope the mentality you speak of is diminished now.
By repeating those claims you are perpetuating those harms, regardless of what you “really believe.”
No.
It’s good to understand why people, even those with whom we disagree, are making the decisions they are making.
I’m sure you would rather those who disagree with you seek to understand why you make the choices you do etc.
I’m a firm believer in know your enemy
And weekly affirmation that what their ingesting is real. You may have a point.
Freud would give you a long diatribe about the distinction between Id, Ego, and Superego.
You can believe a thing is wrong and still do it. Ask any smoker. You can do a thing and wrestle with the psychological consequences afterwards. Ask anyone who has ever felt guilty. You can plan to behave a certain way and become derailed by impulses or anxiety. Ask anyone who has ever succumbed to fear or pain.
Self-policing is a logical response to an illogical/immoral impulse. Tossing cookies out of the cabinet and ice cream out of the fridge is the first step towards dieting. Cancelling your credit card is a technique to curb impulsive spending. How is this any different?
Can we please not. I don’t bring up hylomorphism when I talk about physics, so can you please give psychology a similar dignity by treating it like an actual science?
Psychology isn’t a question of physics. The complex machine that is the human brain isn’t some single-action lever with a discrete well-defined input/output relationship. Neither is the human brain some binary circuit governed by logic gates and trivially deterministic sequences.
At some point, you have to approach psychology experimentally. You can’t just wave your hands and assume you know how the black box of the mind is going to work. And you can’t dismiss the accumulated experimental data because you don’t like the person who spearheaded its compilation.
I don’t. I actually read psychology meta-analyses about accumulated experimental data, and relatively few individual papers are using terms like “superego” (and I can find two meta-analyses, one of which is just describing psychoanalysis). Even then, it’s within a modern framework of psychoanalysis which has evolved over 100 years, not regurgitating what they think “Freud would say”. You’re citing Freud specifically by literally saying “here’s what Freud would say”, so don’t strawman me by pretending I’m anti-experimental data or whatever the fuck.
I’m not saying it is; it’s an emergent phenomenon in a chain thereof. I’m saying it is a science that deserves to actually be taken seriously, not mired in “here’s what someone who barely understood the field as we understand it today would’ve said” like that holds literally any weight about why people behave the way they do.
Your vibrations in the ether seem distressed my friend. A nice warm cup of tea will help re-balance your humours.
God. Damn. It. A cup of tea sounds really refreshing right now, and I’m going to have one. Stupid science bitches finally made I more smarter.