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        It’s a no win situation. Either you’re a ruthless BigAg megacorp treating a living being like a machine for financial gain, or you’re an independent farmer who’s built a relationship with your cow by looking her in the eye each time you reach down with a slow, firm, gentle hand. One’s cruel, one’s unusual.

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            Conceptually, yeah. But I can’t classify any product that has its roots in seeds/pesticides/herbicides produced for monoculture then processed and packaged by conglomerates that leave the brand name of the farms and small producers they bought out so they could peddle the fiction of “small farm” or “ethical” as a win. It’s a step in the right direction, but like so many things capitalism gets its hands on, it’s also often greenwashed to target buyers who want to feel like their choice is ethical but we’re still buying from shitty companies that profit from your soy milk purchase just as much as from someone else’s whole milk purchase. There’s not a lot of environmentally conscious, sustainably grown, artisanal soy milk made from heirloom seeds being sold at farmer’s markets.

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          or you’re an independent farmer who’s built a relationship with your cow by looking her in the eye each time you reach down with a slow, firm, gentle hand

          And take away her calf and send it to the slaughter, since that is the only way you can produce milk for human consumption.

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            Should I have made the punchline of the shitpost about artificial insemination? Seemed like low-hanging fruit. I assumed that the idea of a dude groping an animal’s mammary glands carried its own implications of weirdness, and that readers were familiar with what triggers lactation. But, as they say, when you assume… Now you and me are both asses.

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            Yes Twig, that’s the point. That it’s either mechanized cruelty or weirdly sexualized is just a punchline used to vent personal critique with the system through cynicism.

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      most of the world is allergic to milk, also breeding and killing cows contributes to global warming and animal torture

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        most of the world is allergic to milk,

        I’m going to need to see some sources to back up that claim.

        Edit: this seems to say less than 0,5% of adult population is allergic to milk. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1939455122000229

        Lactose intolerance is more common.

        Experts estimate that about 68 percent of the world’s population has lactose malabsorption.1

        https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/digestive-diseases/lactose-intolerance/definition-facts

        But that’s far from allergy. Allergies are more severe than just bloating, diarrhea and gas.

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            Diarrhea can be kinda dangerous, but yeah, bloating and gas are just mild inconveniences. Basically just a side effect of eating some foods anyway or sometimes in bigger amounts.

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            Has to be, only way it makes sense and would explain why i was surprised over it as I’m form EU and it’s significantly less people are effected here.

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              Virtually all adult humans will develop some degree of lactose intolerance as they age. A lot of people just never connect the fact that they are getting more farty and bloated with dairy, so in cultures where dairy consumption is more culturally ingrained, mild to moderate lactose intolerance tends to be underreported.

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                I guess, you didn’t claim otherwise, but just to point out that there’s actually also a genetic change in cultures that have consumed dairy for longer:

                In northern European countries, early adoption of dairy farming conferred a selective evolutionary advantage to individuals that could tolerate lactose. This led to higher frequencies of lactose tolerance in these countries. For example, almost 100% of Irish people are predicted to be lactose tolerant.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance

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                Honestly that’s the first time i hear it. Though yeah culturally dairy is a big part of our culture, so it would make sense that any issues regarding it are underreported.

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            Depending on the severity of the effects, those are survivable or even just slightly uncomfortable. While allergies can be lethal.

            Though that’s up to each individual to decide.