Yall should remove some of these animal words and instead add different words for like the 5 different meanings of “spring”
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Spelled differently, duh.
Would be simpler just to call them turtles and landturtles.
What about mine turtles?
Tortoises are Turtles, but not all Turtles are Tortoises.
This isn’t an English thing, this is a taxonomy thing. It should be the same in any language, just with different words used.
Both are translated “tortue” in french However to be fair, it could be specified “Tortue marine” and “Tortue terrestre”
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A turtle lives in water, a tortoise lives on land. A turtle’s not a tortoise, it’s not hard to understand.
But they are turtles, like every crow is a bird.
Tuuuurtle turtle-urtle-urtle, turtle urtle urtle urtle. GAH, IT’S NOT A TORTOISE
in dutch theyre called landschildpad and zeeschildpad (landshelltoad and seashelltoad)
Shelltoad is a fantastic name for them
Most humans live above ground level, you sound like your live in your mother’s basement. Doesn’t make you a different species, does it?
So you’re just admitting you don’t understand taxonomy
flippers and feet.
Distant muffled sound of Diogenes frantically strapping scuba flippers onto a Galapagos tortoise
A tortoise is a kind of turtle, just like a toad is a kind of frog.
Just like birds are kind of a dinosaurs
If you think “spring” is bad, go check how many different meanings there are for the word “set”.
“off” is one my favourites. The alarm went OFF so we had to turn it OFF. It means the opposite of itself.
“Sanction” is another example. Your actions were not sanctioned by us, so as retaliation we’re introducing sanctions against you.
It means the opposite of itself.
Fun fact: there’s a word for words like that, they’re called contronyms.
As we run the run of the route in rehearsal, I run the company’s schedule so the show runs on time, the engine runs and the lights run off backup power while the road runs north along a river that runs high and the dye might run in the rain, and as the contract runs a year and a rumor runs through town, I run for office to keep the operation running smoothly, avoid a run on supplies, keep late cues from running over, prevent us from running out of time or letting costs run up, run through notes and run them by the team, run tests and run the numbers, run lines until they run together, run a tight ship so nothing runs afoul of the rules, run risks we can afford, run hot when we must, and keep the whole run unbroken.
You can cleave something apart, but the halves might cleave together.
I’ve always liked that “flammable” and “inflammable” mean the same thing.
I always thought turtles mostly live in the water and tortoises mostly lived on land.
The good ol’ “All tortoises are turtles but not all turtles are tortoises”
Like with squares and rectangles
True, in British English! American English doesn’t differentiate.
Well, it’s fine for the Americans to be wrong again :)
That’s not true at all. American English absolutely differentiates them in exactly the same way.
I don’t seem to ever get corrected, chewed out, or bitched at when I call the animal with shell and legs a turtle, and I talk about turtles a lot. More than you’d ever know.
All tortoises are turtles, but not all turtles are tortoises. Generally tortoise implies that it is mostly land based, but it’s not a rigorous definition. You can call all of them turtles all day long and still be correct, but that doesn’t mean that American English doesn’t still have the same connotations for turtle and tortoise that British English does.
Now do terrapin.
A terrapin is a student of the university of maryland. ezpz
I just do in English what I’d do in Japanese: see turtle? If feets, land turtle. If flippers, sea turtle.
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In common speech Japanese conflates way more animals than English does, including turtles/tortoises. I just had to look up rikugame because I’d only ever heard kame before. If you’re a scientist or at a turtle conference I’m sure the distinction gets used, but otherwise it goes along the lines of pigeon/dove, alligator/crocodile, rat/mouse, etc.
I grew up speaking Japanese. I know this already.
I’m choosing to believe that rather than explaining my own language back to me, that you’ve made that comment for the sake of audience notes, so people who don’t speak Japanese can follow along from the comfort of their own toilets.
Otherwise it’s kinda cringe.
Simple!
Turtle: pretty chill dude cruising the East Australian Current Tortoise: teaching Pandas Kung-Fu
Damn kids, in my day turtles lived in the sewer eating pizza and doing ninjutsu.
shakes cane
Those clearly were tortoises though :D
Technically they’re (mutated) terrapins (specifically red-eared terrapins).
So, tortoises, and thus also turtles…
Teenage Mutant Ninja Terrapins
Teenage Mutant Ninja Terrapins
Teenage Mutant Ninja Terrapins
Heroes in a half-shell, Terrapin Power!
My box turtle mostly lives on soil, although he enjoys a paddle and soak in his water. But the main difference from a tortoise is that he’s omnivorous, needing protein like bugs, whereas they are herbivores.
Fun fact, Eastern box turtles are illegal to keep as pets in Ohio if captured in the wild.
Mine was raised from the egg of a non wild turtle by someone else who found themselves unable to care for it and asked me to give it a home.
Tortoises are land animals. Simple.
Frogs and toads might be a better one - there’s no systematic difference except toads are ugly.
The spring comment is valid.
All tortoises are turtles (but not all turtles are tortoises) from a biology point of view. Tortoises specifically being exclusively land-based members of the turtle (Testudines) order. So there is a difference.
And “spring” doesn’t really have different meanings - as per the root of the word, it always means some variant of “to burst forth”. There’s lots of different definitions for the word but they’re all rooted in the same place, from an etymology point of view.
The season bursting forth from the winter darkness and cold, the metal coil as it bursts forth when released from compression, the source of water as it bursts forth from the ground, bursting forth someone out of jail, etc.
Homographs are the real problem - when two different words, over time, become spelled the same.
Sow, lead, close, bear. All have multiple etymologies where different words eventually became spelled the same. Those are the worst!
English is a truly crazy mashup of Latin, Greek, French, German, Celtic, Norse and more.
Why did you do this
Turtle mostly sea living
Tortoise land living
Terrapin er not sure, water based and evil?
Terrapins move well on land and water, they have webbed clawed feets, mostly they live on fresh water.
They are waaaaaay different what are you talking about…
