• kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
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    For context, he was speaking about living in expensive metropolitan cities, suggesting people move into less expensive places within the US, like the interior states. Ben says enough stupid shit to mock without isolating a quote from context to make it seem like he said/meant something else entirely.

    Hell, there’s plenty to push back on with this quote and argument even understanding what he actually meant. “Just move somewhere cheaper”. Like that’s a much easier thing to say than do.

    1. If you’re unable to afford living where you are, then you’re probably going to struggle to afford the costs of moving. Then there’s the logistics of finding work and housing wherever you move to from another state. If you don’t have money to coast on for temporary housing, gas and food, you either need a company willing to hire you and provide you assistance to move or a personal connection in the area that’ll let you crash on their couch.

    2. Your field of work may just not exist in Guthrie, Oklahoma, or wherever. Leaving metro areas may mean changing careers. And those careers may not pay anywhere near as much either. Your costs may go down, but your wages might go with it.

    3. Leaving your home city means leaving all of your support structures. Your parents, siblings, friends, peers, etc. Some people may really depend on those. Or maybe someone depends on you specifically. Maybe your mom isn’t healthy? Maybe you have a sister dealing with addiction? Maybe they need your presence to ensure their care.

    4. There are political, legal, and health considerations in changing states. Do you have an active sex life and don’t want to be afraid that you’ll die from an unaborted ectopic pregnancy? Have a trans child? Are you not white? Then you may be more limited in suitable places to live outside of metropolitan city.

    5. This sidesteps the actual problem here, the why of it all. Why they can’t afford to live in the city they grew up in. Why is pay so bad? Why is housing so expensive? Why are groceries so expensive? But no, no. We can’t question or address those things. That’s just business baby. Free market capitalism at work. Let it ride, unregulated. Just move your ass out of the way to Hastings, Nebraska or some shit.

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      The right answer is to deconstruct the argument logically and educate, of course. But I think it has to be added that the hypocrisy is intentional and is not stupidity and to understand the argument behind the facade you have to understand us politics. Which is all about manipulating the voter turnout. Imigrants will, once naturalized, vote against republicans, so they are oppressed. Same with women, high education, and so on. These are all just traits that let you select people who’d vote against you.

      For example abortion, women who would consider aborition will statistically vote against republicans, so republicans rally around that and demonize abortion to make the women move away or stay away. Or as you mentioned transgender people, yes they can’t move to republican states, that’s the point!

      It’s always about supressing the people who statistically vote against you. In this case poor people vote against you, so you argue that poor people should leave the state or the country to dillute or strategically shift the voting opposition.

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    Ben Shapiro, man of the people, self-made millionaire, no help or handouts, no complaints, just pure husslin’ and bustlin’, hardest worker in America, Ben Shapiro knows the value of a dollar, he knows what it’s like to struggle, but he made it through, for he is Ben “Privilegeless” Shapiro.

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    If lifelong rural farmers are struggling so bad in their shithole counties, why don’t they just move to a city?

    The logic works both ways.

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      Yeah, because if you can’t afford to live, then you certainly can’t afford to move to another country.

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        Not sure if this is a jest, but it isn’t true.

        People move to other countries sometimes with little more than the clothes on their backs - just look at historical immigration to the US.

        If you have the luxury of doing it the proper way - getting a job offer, a place to live, etc - then that’s perfect, but desperate people will do desperate things to survive.

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          I may be misunderstanding your argument but just to make sure I want to point out that

          desperate people will do desperate things to survive

          does not run counter to

          if you can’t afford to live, then you certainly can’t afford to move to another country

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        Then they should stop trying to fight abortions! We’reTRYING to shrink the unwanted populations, but we’re getting stuck with these unwanted kids.

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    The only potentially generous way to interpret that statement is if “here” is like downtown in a major city or near a college campus or something.

    But do you know who deserves the benefit of the doubt? Not this little fucker, not one bit.