• mistermodal@lemmy.ml
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    Well yeah you can tell because we only saw a tiny sliver of his operation. We didn’t even get Wexner. Netanyahu was celebrating like he thought Ehud Barak got burned worse than him. Diddy wasn’t even in it so you know there are dozens of Epsteins. Clearly capital needs a way to bind together the self-interests of ruling class cliques and coordinate these ill-conceived illegal human research projects across different universities, even continents.

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    You think the rich are limited to just one human trafficking island? Epstein is just the Israel branch.

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    I’m honestly surprised no one is talking about this more. It’s not like all these guys just suddenly decided “you know what? we should stop raping children” after Epstein was “caught”. Someone else took over, someone else is running the show now, not like all that child raping and blackmail was going to stop.

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      yeah, the sabbatean frankists (aka the child raping/sacrificing oligarchs) have been at it for centuries (at least) and the western world popularly became aware of their existence and power during the 17th century when they took over the catholic church in poland to kick out all of the jews that were trying to stop them.

      nobody stopped them back then; they’re stronger than ever today; and the esptein files proves that the only thing that they fear are the communists.

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        uh, i decisded to look up sabbatean frankism and got a whole lot of antisemitic conspiracy bullshit. where are you getting your info on this because i’m not finding anything reliable and that might be the googles.

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          antisemitic conspiracy bullshit

          that’s the most fascinating aspect about all of this to me: before epstein it was all popularly considered conspiracy theories despite the epstein people being publicly revealed to the world 3 times in the past century alone. it took an american government file releases to make the world realize that it was never conspiracy theory and it boggles me to no end that the american government has been releasing files for decades that prove the tankies are also correct, but americans still regard it as conspiracy theory (or near conspiracy theory) nonetheless.

          but i digress and i’m as much a neophyte as you are to these (ex?) conspiracy theories. i started this rabbit hole w the polish expulsion of the jews in the 13/14th centuries because that was the first time that the frankists flexed their power publicly (that we know of) through the catholic church in poland and then follow the antisemitic bread crumbs to understand its vague relationship with judaism. tldr: the semitic people that would end up accidentally creating the abrahamic religions (hence sabbatean) started off w the ancient mesopotamic pantheon of gods and; over the millennia; would re-assign all of the other god’s powers to yahweh except for two, baal and moloch. (fascinating side note: christians & muslims would later rename baal to satan and yahweh to god/allah, but that’s another digression).

          the frankist ethos was already in alignment w the ancient rituals attributed to baal and the sabbatean branch of the frankists were was also fond of the ritualistic child torture/sacrifice that used to be attributed to moloch; combine the two, fast forward a couple hundred (thousand?) years in intentional obscurity and you end up with the epsteins (and almost 80% of the western world’s oligarchy membered cults).

          besides the hundreds of other conspiracy theorists that it sounds like you’re already found, professor jiang of predictive history fame and alex jones of sandyhook fame are the closest things to reputable you’re going to find. you got to keep in mind that the epsteins admitted in their emails that they went to a lot of trouble to discredit/silence people who tried to umask them to the world, so you’re not going to find much from “reputable” sources and what you do find has to be taken with a grain of salt.

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            Thank you for the condensed explanation. So first, i spent all day on hold and my brain is exhausted. I apologize for the ramble. Can I tell you my worry? It was only recently that we were discussing the use of LLMs to create bullshit documents in the Trump-Epstein Friendship Archive (TEFA) so as to try to hide a proverbial needle in a haystack. Here’s my supposition: that some records in the TEFA are falsified with the intent of adding bullshit bigoted narratives to the historical record.

            I mean they say you write what you know

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    This is what happens in a culture where every success/failure is attributed to the individual and the systems in which individuals live go completely ignored.

  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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    Exactly, he was just a manager for one rape island that we know of. He was a product of a system that’s still humming along right now.

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    Is there a systematic way to identify other Epsteins, based on what we know so far. In hindsight it was pretty obvious what he was doing.

    For example go over the n richest people in the world, create a social graph, and look for suspiciously central nodes, where it is unclear how they got their money (or that have suspicious connections to certain agencies).

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    Been saying that a while. It’s a niche that’s gotta be filled by someone for the ultra wealthy and political leaders. It’s like you won’t be accepted or protected unless you’re as guilty as they are and sink to their level.