“People hate it when we force copilot and AI stuff on them, what should we do? Folks hate it so much they’re actively leaving our OS!”
“Okay, hear me out: Add more.”
I used Edge for business tasks. Not like work task, or normal browsing, etc. But figured if someone was going to send me an excel document, if I say “well I opened it in edge" when it breaks, it avoids some problems.
But with the latest updates they’ve really been “Microsofting” it hardcore. Chrome dialogs with broken buttons, impossible to use combined tabs behaviour, dead end settings pages with no controls, crashes, slower and slower browsing…
It’s becoming such a disaster I can’t even use it for that anymore. Now this? Thank god Firefox is still around. Legit hearing people talking about it again…
its on people if they are still using EDGE.
Why? Some people like living on the edge.
Who is making these decisions and what is their come to blood ratio, because I’m reckoning it’s fairly high.
At this point I believe Microsoft pays the likes of Adobe to not make Linux versions of their software. Strange how MacOS has Microsoft office despite being them being the biggest competitor for their OS. It’s just that MacOS runs only on expensive MacBooks. Microsoft might have thought even if Macs get better than Windows in every aspect, people, businesses, schools and governments still won’t but them as they are too expensive.
But that’s not the case with Linux. Linux is pretty much better than Windows in almost every aspect. The only limiting factor is software support. And most people just use their computers for browsing the web and making spreadsheets and word docs — Microsoft office is the default here. If Microsoft Office were on Linux, Microsoft would have the potential to lose about half of their OS market share just because managers/CEOs will push it to save costs. Which will have a cascading effect — leading others like Adobe to make their creative suites available on Linux.
So Microsoft’s only card at play here is holding off Microsoft Office from Linux users as long as possible.
Microsoft is currently pushing everyone to use office on the cloud, so they kinda are making office work on Linux (in a web browser).
Outlook running natively on windows is currently being phased out, Of course the cloud services version of outlook sucks eve more than the native version, and that’s saying something. It looks like it’s just hotmail to me. But that’s what they’re pushing everyone to. I wouldn’t be surprised if the start phasing out other office products running natively in the coming years. Office already does everything it can to save files to one drive.
Cloud services are making them money, so much like how they’re putting AI into everything, they also seem to want to put everything on the cloud because… more cloud money! After all you can’t just continue to use the older version of excel installed on your computer when excel exists in the cloud. You’ll have to pay a subscription to continue using their software because it lives in the cloud.
Yeah your strategy would make sense if Microsoft were still the machiavellian schemers they used to be. But now they just seem to be chasing after money in the short term in whatever looks to be growing (cloud services and AI) with no real long term strategy at all. And they really really want people to pay a subscription to use their software. But in their greed they just might kill their Windows business.
Ig then maybe they have just accepted that everyone will jump the OS ship sooner or later, so they are just trying to lock people in their ecosystem? That’s why they make us create a Microsoft account on Windows, the sudden “We Love Linux” moto, making Cloud your dependency stuff.
Windows users, I hope you guys know that you have our support in these trying times. I’m wearing a ribbon and everything.
Microsoft only beats you because they love you
Install Linux, Problem Solved.
Microsoft ♥️ Linux
To be clear, Microsoft ♥️ Money. Azure would be dead in the water if they didn’t support Linux. Web development is Linux development, so their platform would be dead for web development if they didn’t do WSL. They do only the Linux they have to.
This experience helps users quickly understand content
They really think we’re stupid. Unfortunately, they may be mostly right.
The only thing Edge is good for is downloading literally any other browser…
We wouldn‘t even need it for that if their Windows store versions of browsers weren‘t so terrible.
It also has a good use of being the toilet of browsers. As in, if you ever are required to temporarily install some pervasive plugin or extension to take a proctored exam or something, Edge is good to use because you know you won’t use the that browser for anything you care about and you can protect good browsers from those garbage plugins.
That’s what I have an entire laptop for. I call it the Dust Collector. It’s sole purpose is to collect dust and maybe once or twice a year be ready for a proctored exam. It’s not even allowed on my home network.
Better to use winget, though. That way you don’t even need to bother with Edge’s initial setup screens.
Better to use apt-get though. That way you don’t even need to bother with the dumpster fire that is Windows 11.
Better to build from source, that way you don’t have to deal with the snap versions of the program
Gentoo user: “Of course we build from source! (What are snaps?)”
As Ftumch said, winget is really the way to go these days. No browser, just:
Terminal > winget install mozilla.firefox > Done.
It’s good for viewing PDFs
I think Firefox does that just as well, and also allows you to edit them.
No, that was IE. Edge is decent enough browser for normies, equal to chrome.
You’re not wrong. Edge is just Chromium with MS branding. It’s not a bad browser like IE was.
Although if they do shit like this it will be.
Edge is nice at work because it works with all the apps we have that still expect IE rendering quirks.
I wouldn’t bother with it if you are at home.
Fair enough, let me rephrase that to “5 years ago, edge was decent enough”. But so many big companies are ruining their product with AI these days. It s almost the status quo.
Just let the AI have a teensy weensy peek at all of your emails, guys, it’s just an itsy bitsy little peek, what’s the big deal, why don’t you trust us??
Companies that use Outlook use Microslop Teams for communication anyway. I work for one of those and honestly? Not my problem. I can‘t make them use open source software and I‘m not paid enough to convince them.
And if it’s a gmail account you get to have two companies reading all of your mail!
I’ll hate it because this already happens with links in MS Teams where despite having a high spec work computer it makes the system so sluggish that the mouse cursor won’t move smoothly for 15 seconds or so while it sorts itself out.
I mean I’ve already got a Core i7 with 32G of RAM and an NVME sitting on my desk so how much freaking horsepower is THIS little stunt going to take?
Edge browser now required a GPU with 12Gb VRAM minimum.
OF COURSE YOU CAN RENT GPU CLOUD COMPUTE!
Steve.
Steve fuckin’ gets it.
Not me though
You don’t have enough AI-ready GPU cores so Teams is running the local copilot model on the CPU with your most recent outlook emails in order to prepare a dummy to send to the cloud for further analysis
…I don’t know if any of the above is true but if it didn’t even stop you for a second to question it, isn’t it time to get off Windows?
I’m not even going to recommend an OS, just anything but Windows. Fucking Apple is more trustworthy.
None, if you ditch windows.
haha nuke the partition, put Linux on it
Luckily there’s still the trick of not using Edge. Who knows for how long.
you wouldn't sideload browser ai you hatei you hate?
Because Dennis is a bastard man!
So somebody took a look at the modern web and thought “Hey, this is pretty good, but you know what would make it even better? Even more shit you didn’t ask for popping up in your face with every click!”
