• lauha@lemmy.world
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      No, they just had a baby in a cave together and claimed it was a virgin birth.

      Seriously though, I thought they were married?

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        I feel like if they were married it would have been expected that mary wasn’t a virgin

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        They get married at some point after jesus is conceived, and have other children (opinion varies, catholics maintain that Mary remained a virgin)

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        I did a quick look, but tbh I would need to know more about ancient judaic wedding practices.

        Here goes: in Gospel by Luke, when Mary gets the announcement, they are betrothed (fiancée).
        In Gospel by Matthew, Joseph hears of this and wants to cancel the betrothement, but gets an explanation by an angel and “takes her in” but doesn’t sleep with her until after Jesus is born.
        In Gospel by Luke, when they arrive in Bethlehem, they’re called betrothed. So I don’t know how official and extensive the “taking in” is to be seen.

        Anyways, look what I found in the Song of Mary:

        He performs mighty deeds with his arm; he scatters those who are proud in their inmost thoughts.
        He brings down rulers from their thrones but lifts up the humble.
        He fills the hungry with good things but sends the rich away empty.

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          luke 2 verse 5 in the king james version i grew up with:

          To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child

          luke 1 verses 26 and 27

          And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,

          To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin’s name was Mary.

          now i always took that espoused in context to mean betrothed, not married. although i was never 100% up on marriage customs of the time. they had a formal relationship, were planning on being married, she claims she was a virgin and she was very pregnant. that’s what i got.

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          Which is very unclear considering it is a translation. Besides is it ever mentioned they lived together. They travel together to pay taxes yes

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          In Gospel by Matthew, Joseph hears of this and wants to cancel the betrothement, but gets an explanation by an angel and “takes her in” but doesn’t sleep with her until after Jesus is born.

          That’s the interesting one, where she turns up pregnant, and Joe is pissed because he hasn’t slept with her, and he wants nothing to do with this slut, but some “angel” shows up, who looks like he could be one of her uncles or something, and explains how it’s not her fault, and Joe is going to “do the right thing, capisce?” and Joe agrees, but he still thinks she’s still a slut.

          Good story, bro.