• empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 hours ago

    So, this means Microsoft has copies of every single bitlocker key, meaning that a bad actor could obtain them… Thereby making bitlocker less than worthless, it’s an active threat.
    MS really speedrunning worst possible software timeline

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      3 hours ago

      They don’t have a copy of every single Bitlocker key. They do have a copy of your Bitlocker key if you are dumb enough to allow it to sync with your Microsoft account, you know, “for convenience.”

      Don’t use a Microsoft account with Windows, even if you are forced to use Windows.

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        1 hour ago

        Save a copy of your bitlocker keys to a Veracrypt drive with a password no shorter then 15 mixed characters. Then upload that encrypted container to any free service. They wont be able to open it and now you have a remote backup copy.

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          57 minutes ago

          I employed the super secure expedient of never exporting my keys. I have no idea what they are, I never did, and I never will.

          There’s really no irreplaceable data on my Windows machine. If I have to reformat it some day A) that’s no big deal, and B) it’s Windows, what else is new.

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        To use Windows without a Microsoft account requires tech literacy these days, I thought. I would not be suprised if users didn’t choose to sync with a MS account but it’s doing it anyway, if that’s what MS want.

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          If you sign in with a Microsoft account at all I don’t believe there’s the capability to opt out.

          I only use local accounts. I have never had a Microsoft account. I never will.

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            You can’t do that anymore, at least not with a normal Windows installation. All of the tricks of forcing it offline, clicking cancel 10 times and jumping up and down don’t work anymore, they’ve disabled them all, the only way to install Windows 11 now (using the normal Microsoft installer) is by linking it to a Microsoft account.

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          I’m not even sure if you can install without an MS account if you don’t use Rufus anymore. Rufus requires literacy for sure, and even if you can still do it without it is designed to make it impossible to know you can from within the installer itself.

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        It’s a bit harsh and unfair to say “you are dumb enough to allow it”. Microsoft makes it damn near impossible to avoid this unless you are extremely particular and savvy about it, and never have an off day where you make a mistake while using your PC.

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        They do have a copy of your Bitlocker key if you are dumb enough to allow it to sync with your Microsoft account, you know, “for convenience.”

        Which I don’t believe is the only way it can leak. It’s well known Microsoft can access anything and everything on an internet connected Windows PC whether there’s a Microsoft account or not. If the nazi’s push for the device of someone on a local account only, you know they’ll magically find a way.

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      No they do not have copies of every Bitlocker key.

      Bitlocker by default creates a 48-bit recovery code that can be used to unlock an encrypted drive. If you run Windows with a personal Microsoft account it offers to backup that code into your Microsoft account in case your system needs recovered. The FBI submitted a supoena to request the code for a person’s encrypted drive. Microsoft provided it, as required by law.

      Bitlocker does not require that key be created, and you don’t have to save it to Microsoft’s cloud.

      This is just a case of people not knowing how things work and getting surprised when the data they save in someone else’s computer is accessed using the legal processes.

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        Except that Microsoft basically puts a gun to every users head to login with a Microsoft account which can/does backup the recovery keys.

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          This is why we Jason Bourne style snatch the gun out of their holster before they can draw it and beat them unconcious with it, I mean oobe\bypassnro

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      Microsoft is already a bad actor and they have them. Or a bad actor could threaten microsoft physically and microsoft will hand them over. Wait, that already happened.

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      And people make fun of me for turning off secure boot and tpm. They just cause grief for no benefit.

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        Well this isn’t directly related to those, so maybe some derision is warranted.

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        As long as you’re doing your own whole disk encryption, you have a valid path to still be secure. However, if you’re running an unencrypted disk, you’re much more likely to lose your data to a non-state actor.