Fuck Tim Apple and his gifting of trinkets to a shit demon.
OK but what about the profits? Isn’t that the only important thing?
Apple, you buy one, you regret it for the rest of your life. Never ever again.They were the best when competition was Windows 95 and immature Linux or when iPhone was the only phone with usable UI. But in 2026 Apple is just an “Idiot tax”.
Is this where we share all of our Apple woes?
I had to use an iPhone for work the other day. The up arrow to send a text message was present but not responding.
Oh, the autocorrect has highlighted a word it thinks I misspelled, and I’m guessing we can’t send because a word is highlighted?! OK, tap elsewhere on the message to cancel highlight; it still won’t send, WTF? Tap AGAIN elsewhere on the message, and now it can send.
Lots of reaching up to the top of the screen for no reason, too. Why are there controls up there when my thumbs are already at the bottom for the keyboard? I have to reconfigure my grip on the expensive device I don’t want to drop, just for basic user interactions.
iPhone always leaves me wondering who approved the software working like this, have they ever used a computer before; and how is Android going to degrade in an attempt to copy this behavior?
You’re describing all of modern computing AFAICT.
Modern mainstream computing, surely! I moved my household to Linux years ago so I may be a bit out-of-the-loop. Everybody can still do what they are trying to do, and more. It’s brought back some of the feelings of wonder and fun about computers that I missed from the 80s.
I am overwhelmed by everything now. It’s so complex and convoluted, and even people trying to help leave things out that they assume you know.
To me computing is now plugging small black rectangles that look all exactly alike into another larger black rectangle that all look the same to get indistinguishable results for things I don’t even need or want.
And when I don’t want it it gets shoved down my throat anyway.
To me computing is now plugging small black rectangles that look all exactly alike into another larger black rectangle that all look the same to get indistinguishable results for things I don’t even need or want.
I don’t know if I’m mad that this description is really wrong, or more mad that it is really on point.
Modern computing to me is slicing up a big computer to have it pretend to be lots of smaller computers.
I remember trying to get some online account activated that was in the apple ecosystem so I try to do it from my PC and it doesn’t work. Call up customer service and they say use your iphone to do it. I’m like, dafuq does it matter what device I use, it’s the internet it should work with any device. So i try again with Chrome (which is my default because the safari search or whatever apple uses sucks balls). Still doesn’t work. Turns out I not only have to do it on an iphone, but I have to do it using safari browser on an iphone. Apple built their entire company on trapping the tech illiterate and keeping them that way. None of the UI makes sense and a lot of the users act like these byzantine features are completely intuitive and superior to all others. No they aren’t, you just don’t speak any other languages but Apple.
Honestly if there are good alternatives to apple, I would switch to alternatives, I am seriously considering buying a fair phone
Seconding the motorola suggestion, but hold a little longer until the GrapheneOS compatable models drop.
I’m on a pixel 9 with Graphene OS and it’s fantastic
The first Motorola handsets to support Graphene will be very expensive, but a slightly older Pixel from eBay is a fine option
I only buy cheap Androids with Snapdragon and degoogle. Yeah, Android is also starting to suck but at least you are currently allowed to take out the trash.
I learned today that connecting a child’s Google account to a device completely neuters the ability to install or manage apps from anywhere other than Google Play. As in: I, the parent, can’t even temporarily allow F-Droid to be able to install an app. Fuck Google, too.
Don’t forget the further entrapment in subscription hell with Apple one.
Fuck apple. I’ll never forgive jobs for nuking the internet. When jobs killed Flash in order to herd users into his app store, the internet was never the same.
Well, now we have Safari holding things back, being it’s the only browser engine on iOS (other iOS browsers are just Safari reskins). It’s the buggiest and most outdated of the major browsers, but you can’t ignore it because the iDevice market is too big. It’s pretty much the new IE6.
No, you’ve got it all wrong. Flash was buggy and insecure proprietary software written for proprietary OSes. I’m glad it died, after several years of trying to fight its normalization on the web, where you’d need to install shitty plugins like gnash on Linux to try to see the same web that people were seeing on Mac or Windows.
The web should always be built on open standards, and Flash was the biggest barrier to that ideal at the time that iPhones came out. Flash deserved to die, and I celebrated when it did.
nah hard disagree. Flash was the core of the web and it got gutted so Apple and Google so leach their 30% cut from their app stores. HTML / JS is still a buggy piece of crap that depends on what the major browser makers declare is valid, no better than adobe had with flash. Flash was the browser in the browser and they hated it.
Flash was a buggy piece of shit and was blocking development of HTML 5. Adobe was the monopolist in that scenario not Apple. Sorry about Newgrounds and Strongbad but Flash had to go.
lmao thanks for the laugh. HTML / JS is still a buggy pile of slop. Apple and Google both dropped support so they could stop Flash from providing app experiences through the browser and forced people into their own app stores. Flash was installed on 99% of computers around the world. It was top tier web and it STILL hasn’t recovered. The current web experience is complete garbage in comparison.
HTML / JS is still a buggy pile of slop.
In what world is JavaScript considered buggier than Flash, either in the actual content in the wild or the client-side software rendering/running that content? It wasn’t true when Flash died and certainly isn’t true today.
Flash was a security nightmare, with all sorts of kludges patched on to try to deal with fundamental flaws in how it handled privileges. If you want to go back to the days where zero click exploits can take over your machine just from a browser visiting the wrong URL, leave the rest of us out of that vision.
The current web experience is complete garbage in comparison.
Mm, and what makes you think that handing Adobe the keys to control everyone’s web experience would make it better?
“In what world is JavaScript considered buggier than Flash” if I have to walk you through this then this conversation is over lmao
Opinion? That’s a fact. We use androidified version of iOS just because the guy was just after profiting.
The fuck is that last sentence supposed to mean?
i think it means ios is basically Android software with less features
Android features with a UI as dumb as facebook so they can slap their proprietary mix of stupid gestures and menus and where the fuck are my files located and how are my photos on the cloud already I didn’t want to do that, who the fuck made this shit, why is my phone facetiming my boss on accident wtf is going on, why does everything feel like a Tim Robinson skit. Ya but if I don’t have the checkmark then I’m the loser or something.
“I just fell so blessed to be able to socialize with you and hear such good words you make, and wife, Mr. trump… This is a gold bar I’m laundering to you, and it has a piece of glass worn your name and an army man made it I think!”
Fuck this guy give the gross pedo gold gifts, what an absolute piece of fucking shit.
I never owned an apple product because of their “killing batteries from afar” fiasco. Once I saw Tim Apple giving trump little golden trinkets on television I knew my decision was right. It reminded me of putting money in the collection plate.
For me it was “forced integration of your music library with Apple music” when the ipod was all the rage that stopped me.
That was the death knell for me as well. I think it was around when I had my last iPod, the… Nano?
Applle is…cooked
Willing to bet $10 the next guy drives it straight into the ground harder and faster.
Who the hell designed that rainbow?!
dude can’t even design a website that scrolls properly and he’s responsible for billion dollar company logos‽
Oh. I see.

“I dunno about no Rob Janoff, but I know all about Rob Juanoff, if yaknow what I’m sayin”
Flawless.
A+
Clearly you don’t need no instructions to know how to rock
Apple is a garbage company. Better than google is not an acceptable measure, and they are only performitiely better than google anyway, they pretend to not kowtow a bit before they do. Google just deepthroats authority because they are the worst.
The only solution is here is to go open source. Tech is an existential risk to society, and already it’s late to stop them. We can stop them though, together.
Honestly if there are good alternatives to apple, I would switch to alternatives, I am seriously considering buying a fair phone
I don’t even think they can be called performatively better than google. Has google personally gifted Trump tacky golden shit? Feels like apple has kissed the ring a lot more.
Better than google is not an acceptable measure
I remember when that would be a pretty high bar. It’s a bit of a distant memory at this point though. It’s crazy how bad tech has become.
His tenure is that of a businessman, not an innovator or visionary. Good or bad, Jobs was all three.
jobs was not an innovator, hes good at marketing, he as ruthless as a business as any other.
Vissonary maybe but innovator?
IPhones & MacBooks were well built & marketed but neither was really innovative.
We can accurately point out that the technologies of the iphone (processors, cellular telephony, cellular data, GPS, touchscreens, bluetooth, cameras, etc) were not invented by Steve Jobs.
But his company took those parts and put something together that a few billion people decided was far more valuable than the sum of those parts. And they all decided to start carrying all these tools and using them fifteen times per hour, when they didn’t before.
It’s really hard to argue that’s not innovative.
How do you define innovation?
I don’t consider being in the right place when the tech fell into place, innovating (see also Tesla, MS-Dos, etc).
I think he was a visionary in that he had a vision and made it reality, but what was the innovation?
Innovative marketing of a product users couldn’t break (easily).
There were way more than 2 things that Apple produced under Jobs…
And the apple mac, the iMac, iPod, and the iPad, and cofounding apple. Even the concept of iLife and the market targetting strategy. Yes, innovator.
A computer, an MP3 player, a tablet, starting a business.
How are any of those innovations?
I’d say killing yourself by ignoring medical advice for an easily treatable desies or pretending your daughter isn’t yours were innovations, but royals have been doing that for centuries.
Like what did he do that was innovative?
The Apple Macintosh wasn’t innovative. Here’s how you “innovate” an Apple Mac: Take an existing product of your company, the Apple IIGS. Make that worse by reducing the processor clock speed so your new product will be superior in some way, because your new product is going to lack backwards compatibility, internal expansion card slots, color graphics or multi-channel audio.
The iMac wasn’t innovative. It was an evolution of their existing product line in trendy packaging.
The iPod wasn’t innovative. Even the UI was taken from Creative. Rio beat them to the market by several years.
The iPad wasn’t innovative. I was handed a Dell tablet PC a full decade before the iPad hit the market.
Apple was innovative twice in its very long history: The Apple II was the first microcomputer that combined color graphics with internal expandability, and the iPhone had a capacitive touch screen. The most innovative thing Steve Jobs ever said in his life was “You can just use your finger.”
The [Creative] Zen patent (6,928,433) covers the aspect of the user interface where a user can select at least one track in an MP3 player using at least three screens to browse for that track in a hierarchical method. As the Creative press release states: “One example would be the sequence of screens that could display artists, then albums, and then tracks. When the user selects an artist, the player displays a list of albums for that artist. Selection of one of the listed albums then displays a list of tracks on the album.”
I don’t think Apple stole UI from Creative.
The Apple II was the first microcomputer that combined color graphics with internal expandability
The first computer I ever used (not counting punch cards or the VIC-20) was an Apple IIe, and I can confidently say that color was green. Later versions of the Apple II had full color, but that wasn’t “innovation” by Steve Jobs, it was just the technology for it becoming affordable.
That was a limitation of the monitor you were using, not the computer. All models of Apple II to include the Plus, e and c had color graphics. But it was common practice to pair them with monochrome monitors, first because they’re cheaper than color monitors, but also…the way the Apple II achieved a 16 color palette was through NTSC artifacting. It only ever tried to send something like six colors over the cable, but when you put two dissimilar colors next to each other, they get smeared together somewhere in the analog domain and they come out some other color. It allowed them to achieve 16 colors, but it had a drawback: Text that was supposed to appear black and white would have green and purple fringes, which made it blurry and hard to read. So if you were using the machine for business or something you might choose a monochrome monitor to get sharper, easier to read text. Apple’s first party monochrome monitors were indeed green.
Demoscene groups CRTC & Hornet recently got 1000 colors out of the original IBM CGA card using this technique.
The CGA card used that technique anyway. The IBM CGA card had a 9-pin RGBI digital output and an RCA analog NTSC output. There was a 16 color text mode, rarely used. Color graphics were usually done via the 4 color mode, which chose between four awful pallettes: light and dark variants of white black magenta and cyan, or yellow black red-orange and yellow. So they appeared kinda terrible on an RGBI monitor, but by dithering the colors together and using the analog output, you’d get other colors.
Huh, interesting to know. Ninth grade me didn’t give a shit about things like that.
I’ve kinda known that most of my life because my elementary school had a lab of IIes, most of which had color monitors, a couple of them had monochrome monitors. So there were a couple of them that were inexplicably “just green.” Most of the rest of that I learned from The 8-Bit Guy on Youtube.
That Wozniak guy’s a good electrical engineer. Clever dude.
iPhones literally were visionary. The whole industry was trying to imitate blackberry and overnight apple made them completely irrelevant. Android ch
MacBooks, yea, it’s a laptop. They had some really good ideas in there, sure. MagSafe and touchpads that didnt royally suck ass were welcome features. The M-series lighting a fire under intels ass was exactly what the entire industry needed. Love them more hate them, even when Apple is bad, they create good trouble in an industry that needed to be proven wrong from time to time.
What was the innovation in the iPhone?
It was worse in almost every way except marketing than the n900.
The technology had reached the point where you could have smartphones by then, I don’t see what was innovative about iPhones.
You can call it visionary, sure because he spread his vision for a locked down phone, but where is the innovation in the iPhone?
the n900 was released two years after the iphone. it was modeled on the iphone from the start, like the entire industry was. (and the n900 still didn’t support multi-touch, which Apple patented.)
The n900 was an interation in the n800, but sure how that can be modeled on the iPhone without time travel.
Is the iPhones invocation patenting things?
the n900’s changes to the n800 were modeled on the iPhone. the n800 is completely different: for one, the touch screen is activated by pressure, not touch. Are you arguing that the n800 is better than the iPhone 1?
Yes and no, the first iPhone was innovative, but after that, it just became refinement.
What was the innovation in the iPhone?
It was worse in almost every way except marketing than the n900.
The technology had reached the point where you could have smartphones by then, I don’t see what was innovative about iPhones.
It wasn’t innovative. They took existing products, and polished and marketed them. Apple has always been a lifestyle brand.
15 years later and the Photos app on iOS is still the same nearly useless pile of shit.
It exists to sell iCloud subscriptions, and by that measure (the only one that matters in this world) it’s a huge success.
Your just not using it the Approved Apple Way™ that’s all.
/s
That is absolutely untrue. Apple has spent tons of time and money in ruining that app and it is a pinnacle of useless trash today thanks to those efforts. Respect.












