Damn, the red fascists came out in numbers and are backing each other up after this.
rare opportunity to refine blocklists
It wasn’t those kind of bots, more like the Google web crawlers.
Russia is not using its own datacenters for fedi when they have unpaid western interns to do it for free.
Can confirm- they stopped sending me checks a while ago
The real way to end wealth inequality: send cheques to everyone who thinks america deserves the slightest criticism.
i’m still getting them, putin even licks the stamps on the envelopes himself 💅
Putain would never lick a thing. He seals his envelopes by throwing them out a second story window
They’re here. Not in the numbers reddit used to have, but they’re here. Occasionally we get a good one too. If you find yourself being argued with unreasonably, there’s a good chance that’s a russian troll. They have a scent.
can you give an example?
These are old and some of them on just their techniques, but it’s a good start.
- Astroturfing Information Megathread- revision 8 (old-reddit link)
- Link within previous thread and archived- “Once we isolate key people, we look for people we know are in their upstream – people that they read posts from, but who themselves are less influential. We then either start flame wars with bots to derail the conversations that are influencing influential people, or else send off specific tasks for sockpuppets (changing this wording of an idea here; cause an ideological split there; etc).”
- Russia and the Menace of Unreality-How Vladimir Putin is revolutionizing information warfare
- Russia is using the power of ‘Black PR’ to destroy political reputations and spread disinformation in the West
- The availability heuristic, also known as availability bias
- What Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin and Viktor Orbán Understand About Your Brain-Why do some people who support Trump also wind up believing conspiracy theories? There’s a scientific explanation for that.
- Political Misinformation Game: Harmony Square-it’s an actual game
- Max Fisher on How Silicon Valley Has Rewired Our Brains | Offline Podcast
- Amygdala hijack occurs when strong emotions “take over” the thinking part of your brain.
- Asch conformity experiments
- Simple Sabotage Field Manual by United States. Office of Strategic Services
- It’s My Right to Hold This Turd
- 5 studies about fact-checking you may have missed last month
- This Video Will Make You Angry
https://sh.itjust.works/post/33277983
Hope that helps!
I have written comments about this before, but the very simplified guide on, how to spot the russian and chinese propagandists on lemmy, is:
- Defending russian invasion in Ukraine, defending genocide of the chinese minorities, claiming Tianamen square massacre and the treatment of uighyr people are a hoax, being racist towards tibetans, doing the “I do not support [them], but…”
- Equating the USA = NATO, claiming everything any NATO country does is NATO as a whole doing it, blaming NATO for trying to attack Russia, saying NATO is trying to expand when border countries are joining voluntarily, blaming small border countries for aggression towards Russia
- Talking about “the West”, starting to speak about colonization times in unrelated discussions, trying to dismiss you by blaming you or you country for European colonization
- Trying to downplay and derail discussion on what Russia/China does, because the USA/“the West”/someone else has done bad things as well
- Writing longer and longer responses with multiple claims, often so you have to look into their sources/find reliable sources on the things by yourself, so you can argue against, in attempt to tire out out by making you answer each claim individually
- Using chinese state sponsored sources, supporting pro-russian/chinese politicians
- Blaming you for supporting genocide in Gaza, when you talk about some other genocide being bad, especially if it is related to Ukraine or China
- Dissing capitalism and saying China and/or Russia are true communists, marxists, etc., supporting the governments of China/Russia, either directly or hinting they are Better Options, arguing against calling China/Russia authoritarian regimes
You know, you found them, when your comments saying anything negative about Russia/China get downvoted, or someone starts arguing against you. Essentially there is no difference between the useful idiots and the bots and propagandists themselves. The people honestly identifying as tankies or defending tankies, are hanging in the metaphorical nazi bar without realizing it, and will not change their opinions, because they belive you are either bad, or brainwashed, so arguing does not get you anywhere.
The easiest way to deal with these, is to block the and move on. Arguing against will only give them more visibility, and make you tired and angry. If you feel pissed off, just explain these points as an answer, so others can consider with a different perspective, what they are reading, then block and move on.
Lmfao your list is just anyone who doesn’t deepthroat western propaganda on every aspect of their “enemies”
Do you believe western news and governments that they are not in the middle of genocide in the middle east?
Trying to downplay and derail discussion on what Russia/China does, because the USA/“the West”/someone else has done bad things as well
Blaming you for supporting genocide in Gaza
Nice try at derailing. I am against all genocide, everywhere. I do not defend nor deny European powers or the USA doing shit all around. I am talking against Russian and Chinese propaganda.
100% agree. If you’re explaining, you’re losing. Some of the replies to your list are hilarious.
Ironically proving my point… lmao. Though I should have added, “calling Ukraine/you/your country nazis”, and “trying to insult you/your country personally, being rude in attempt to get you enraged”. There are probably a few more I forgot.
like persimmons or bad bo?
Smug cloud
I immediately went to check that “SaltyAmerican” guy that often gets in my “All” feed and latest post was week ago. 🗿
Nothing gives away a Russian troll posing as an American person like trying really hard to emphasize their “Americanness” - with those “as an American”/“we Americans”.
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/22444072
Definitely not American if they use the west unironically
There’s another obnoxious troll that’s similar to yours that is so bad at it, I’m pretty sure he’s an american.
Who’s this guy? Sounds like a fun read
They had a lot of posts on “Late Stage Capitalism” community, and I suspect that community as a whole may probably be run by Russian trolls. Simply because of a contrast with other lefty communities - like you can have civil conversations in most places, and in there it’s just a perpetual hate boner machine, that just wants to get you upset and angry.
They’ve taken over the Late Stage Capitalism community and have started banning comments that say voting against the GOP is a good thing.
They definitely have a playbook for infiltrating communities and taking them over. There’s a lot of subreddits on Reddit that are worker aligned but have questionable viewpoints.
My truck is to just never read replies ever.
Then I can never argue with a bot!
If I don’t naturally come across the post again then I just forget it ever happened. Like old forums!
Alright, this is getting unfunny now
most likely resulting in slower internet services or complete disruption for the average Russian. Unfortunately, the ordinary Russian wouldn’t be able to use high-speed satellite internet as a backup, as Starlink does not work in Russia,
What the fuck is he talking about. Yandex is not an ISP, it doesnt provide any internet access services to anyone. Its first and foremost a search engine, like google (the crawlers are most likely responsible for most of outgoing traffic, tagged as bot or otherwise), with crapload of affiliated services, like google, including their own payment system, like google, which is causing a lot of pain rn to those who chose to keep all of their savings in it, and their own cloud service, like google, which took down quite a lot of other sites with it, along with disruptions to TV’s (yandex OS is running on bearly half of them, like android) as well as, unlike google, taxi and food delivery services that they have near-monopoly on, so those effectively halted in the entire country. But, again, unlike google, they dont offer FTTH, residential or commerical internet access, or anything even remotely like that. What in the fuck’s sake satellite internet and starlink has to do with it, idk, thats just plain absolute worst journalism, just writing words without even a pinch of research.
And no, despite of how funny it would’ve been, there isnt actually any report of reduced troll activity ofher than some weird chart some german politician pulled out of their ass without referencing any source. You can even go to xitter, type “яндекс” into search and find loads of actual Russians mass ratioing those few that chose to defend yandex, as well as their reps themselves trying to calm everyone down. If anything, Russian activity on foreign resources only increased because domestic resources are down.
it doesnt provide any internet access services to anyone
They started an MVNO this year tho https://yandex.ru/company/news/28-08-2026-01 And it has AI and number classification baked in? So while not being owned fully by yandex, mobile operator’s features relies on data centers not burning.
Don’t get in between a liberal and their bullshit feel good propaganda. You’re likely to lose a finger!
Poor guy has to try and make up for the lost Russian bots :(
Oh what a handy buttonThank you for ridding me of you, lmao.
Suddenly the online opinion on the US midterms will shift. Curious
Oh yeah? Trumps historic unpopularity go back up or something?
who knew?)
.ML users left in shambles.
You know, if they could still access lemmy in geenral.
Who? Traffic seems fine to me.
You may be new enough not to have encountered this yet but our instance has a well earned reputation of being Soviet boot lickers. Be careful on .ml meme subs and stuff, you’ll catch a permaban for saying anything pro Ukraine or in any way interpretable as anti Russia
Oh…they know exactly what .ml is
Joined 5 days ago
Jesus do you have a goldfish brain? We interact all the time lol.
I got locked out of my OG account.
Do we? You might be overestimating your impact as a person, or I maybe I only pay attention to the usernames of people who make a big positive difference on my flavor of the fediverse!
All the same, brand new accounts are fishy as fuck, especially with 0 posts. Try creating, not just critiquing!
Lmao. Try not voting for genocide next time!
Real. I joined it cuz it said it was FOSS focused and run by the creators of Lemmy which I thought was neat. Did not realize it was a tankie cesspool. I’m now banned from a good portion of it for “Nazi apologia” because I said calling the Ukraine Nazis was Russian propaganda
I have a confession:
When I joined, I thought ML was for Machine Learning.
I initially thought .ml was literally the TLD for the nation of Mali - so was super confused.
I mean, it is. But it’s one of the TLDs that allows wider use.
Only a few national TLDs require being related to the country, or at least being located in the country.
Same actually
Just jump instances. I might have my reservations about how the aversion to monetization means a lot instances are unstable or slow with no real incentives or even funding to improve it but there’s certainly something to be said for decentralization.
I’m glad the instance I chose based on URL ended up being pretty good because sh.itjust.works.
I choose lemmy.world because it was top of the list and I had no idea of anything when I came over from Reddit back then
Some people reckon we’re a Nazi instance… shrug emoji.
I’m not sure why - but have read it a few times. If someone in the know could clue me in if there is actually some back lore to the claim I’d appreciate that.
I wouldn’t think too much into this claim unless there is evidence
Just wondered why anybody would think such a thing…
First I’ve heard of it.
I’ve just read it in passing more than once… but some people like to throw buzz words around and generalise so that could be the case here.
Y’all have the best space industry community.
How do you change instances
You’re welcome to join the toast gang. We don’t have much, but we have an awesome logo and a cool name.
Why would anyone say that?
“When you sit with eleven Nazis, there are a dozen Nazis”
It’s just Ukraine, no “the” in front.
Right thanks for the reminder
Sounds like something the Russia might say… 🧐
It has THE because it’s a geographic area of historic Russia, translating to “THE borderland”.
I’m older than “Ukraine”.
Policing other people’s language is very on point for Ukrainian nationalists. Banderites.
I ain’t ever had no Chicken Kyiv, but I bet it tastes like shit.
You can use your normal .ml account, you don’t need to hide being a tankie.
Russia is an authoritarian imperialist state.
America necessitates authoritarian strongmen, elected or not. We exploit and undermine liberal democracies when attempted in the developing world. All the while we directly arm over 80% of the world’s dictatorships.
Russia doesn’t do that. Russia doesn’t have 861 foreign military bases.
America is not only the least democratic nation on Earth, we are the only empire on Earth.
You’re calling me a tankie because I support democracy. You don’t.
You are the first seemingly sane person from .ml I’ve seen
Thanks… unfortunately I’m well aware that’s a low bar lmao
When I first joined Lemmy 3.5 years ago I almost joined .ml because it was the dev’s instance. I’m glad I chose .ee instead.
If Ukraine is smart they’ll flatten as many Russian data centers as possible before the US midterm elections :D
At least we have elections. Ukrainians don’t. All opposition parties have been banned. All opposition media has been seized by the government. Men have to dress as old ladies in public so they don’t get kidnapped and pressganged ICE style.
Victory or death.
And why?
👀👇
You’ll get one comment out of me just so others see reasonable push back to your bad faith argument, afterwards I will no longer engage.
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All democratic countries I know, have provisions in their constitutions suspending democratic processes, centralizing power in the executive and conscripting their unfortunate male population in the event of an invasion of the country.
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It is a frankly ludicrous idea to suggest that this war is somehow ongoing because “we” want Russia’s natural resources.
Russia started this. Russia can end it any day by stopping the bombardment and withdrawing their troops from within the borders of Ukraine, at least to the status quo before its 2022 invasion.
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Too busy getting shot at
Nah it’s to keep Shakhtar Donetsk in the Champions League
Wait, you actually, unironically, without trolling, while being sober, in all seriousness, think democracies should hold elections while being invaded? Thank god my country has a law that makes that illegal (not Ukraine, don’t know about Ukraine, but in any case that is extremely idiotic thing to do, so good on them for not doing it)
We were paying for Russia’s natural resources before they started the war. How is this situation any better for them or us?
Data centers are back up I see
I love when you guys have nothing else to say in the face of obvious truth, lmao.
I don’t need a data center to see capitalist greed and Weatern imperialism.
The RAND Corporation wrote a whitepaper that basically translates to “how to destroy Russia and take all their shit”.
The unfortunate Arctic thaw is opening up vast troves of natural resources and corporations and billionaires want them. This is why Trump has such a hardon for Canada and Greenland.
Do you ever wonder why all pipelines lead to Europe?
Why would Russia do that? /S
Noooooo… I like Yandex.
I like yandex too… anything that can work as a google alternative is ok on my book. At some point in time, image search was good and russian ads dont work on me cause i dont know russian, xaxaxaxa!
poor you
It’s what I use for piracy
poor you.
but no one believed that it was russian bots all along back when they were wrecking havoc over every other election across Europe and US…
Now Palantir next please.
It’s palantir who’s winning
Arent they on Iran’s shit list?
That and Blackrock, who’s quietly privatized all of Ukrainian public institutions. They are now feudal lords over Ukrainians who can’t even vote, can’t even leave.
They’re corporate serfs.
“our brave heroes” and a “shield of Europe” am I right
They’re so excited to go to the front line that gangs of large men need to restrain their flailing arms and legs as they’re escorted into vans, families crying because they’re so darn proud.
Haha, won’t get us all. BEEP-BOP MOTHERFUCKERS!
What did you say about my computer’s mother?!
I said
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can you pick her out of her tinder profile pic?
Traffic where?
Cloudflare services, there was a post about how their data showed a large drop in bot traffic after a Yandex datacenter was hit.
Did this actually have a measurable impact I wonder?
No wonder .ml got so quiet!
Monkey Putin deserves a crown for solving the Russian bot problem
