Me being an arch using vegan with a man-bun makes this feel like a personal attack.
But once I get my new arch setup working I’ll install gimp on it and create a meme making fun of you!
And you’ll finally get your sound working on your new laptop after weeks of messing with pulse audio and realizing you just needed to install sof-firmware but didn’t scroll far enough in the wiki to see that, but now your pulse audio config is so messed up it’s just easier to reinstall Arch again
Source: my life
Step 1: install pipewire
there is no step 2
Are you me?
Installing sound on Arch is really easy:
- Install ALSA
- Install Pulse
- Spend half an hour trying to get the sound test to work with various parameters
- Realize the default sink is set to USB audio and you don’t have a USB audio device
- Google how to change the default sink
- Change the default sink
Check the arch wiki first if installing Gimp is going to bork your system.
Do you also bike/lift?
Vegan, cyclist, climber, posting from my Arch laptop. I spent most of the day building furniture and writing C# for an aduino class I’m taking.
Damn, sounds like a dream.
Veggie, Ubuntu, same otherwise but fuckin’ C# for an Arduino??? Bruh.
Sorry I meant C++.
Oh no bigs, just… Never heard of that hahaha. Good luck, hope you make something cool! Check out hackaday if you want some interesting user interface ideas, be they physical or digital
I won’t stand for the vegan bashing
You don’t eat animals, btw.
I save my bloodthirst for humans.
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You have elevated levels of stress hormone (and deserve it) if you eat animals, btw.
Then WTF did the plants do to you?
They know what they fucking did. They domesticated my species
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Hmmm, Greatly lower my risk of heart disease and parasites overall? Allow me to enjoy deep-frying and carbs guiltlessly? Make me feel like I can fight god and win?
Vegans just casually setting up a class system upon which to value one life above others.
Cannibals are the real equalists. They don’t discriminate on where their meat comes from and probably eat some veggies with their braised butt.
I respect the life of my vegetables as much as I respect the life of my meat, show me a vegan who says they do likewise and I’ll show you a hypocrite.
I’m vegan for health reasons and I have yet to meat one of the infamous vegans the stereotype portrays. I ask questions, look for recipes, etc, and everyone has been super nice. I think “those vegans” live primarily on Twitter and Reddit.
PS: I’ve had a working Linux system in daily use since I started back with Red Hat Halloween and I prefer Debían based installs like Pop!_OS and Mint D. Nothing against Arch but I ain’t got time to fight the OS as well as my work.
EDIT: The typo stays.
I’ve met one or two. It’s like fine, it’s a major lifestyle change often associated with ethics that sets you aside from most of society. Many folks have a period of a few months to a year or two of being really annoying about shit like that. It happens with all sorts of folks: linux and arch users, freshly out queer people, people getting into polyamory, new converts to religions… frankly atheists and people who just converted to Christianity are the worst about it in my experience. And yeah these people are annoying. You’ve been annoying too I’m sure, we all have, it’s part of being a person and the people being annoying about these things are typically doing so at an age where some variant of that is a common experience
I’ve been annoying? I’VE BEEN ANNOYING?!? I take offense of your liberal use of the past tense, Captain.
I hear ya though. I guess I’ve been lucky in my interactions, but the memes make it seem like it’s constant and ever present with vegans, and that doesn’t match with my experience outside of the Internet.
Surprisingly sane take, I forget sometimes that not everything on the internet is straight cynicism. Ty.
They’re also on Lemmy. I haven’t been here long, but I’ve already seen 2.
One is right here in another comment chain, lol
This is very likely my very environmentally influenced view, but I think there was a period of time where being vegan was a trend among the health hipsters, who weren’t vegan due to ethics, but because either everyone else was doing it or because they claim it has massive health benefits like they did for paleo, keto or other diets. Those I think could indeed fit that stereotype. Or maybe I’m living in a fairy tale.
I’ll stand for it in your absence.
Part of being vegan is understanding you’ll be mocked and criticized for completely unrelated things. Like Bubly sparkling water or blue denim, for example.
Do you do CrossFit™?
I know what you mean, I always sit down first.
Yeah, that’s too much.
I eat chicken, btw.
Of course not. With the lack of iron and protein you need to complain while sitting.
-a vegetarian
Don’t mock too much, that lack of B12 be sneaking up on us both lol
This dead horse is pulp by now
If we keep beating it for long enough, thermodynamics says it might spontaneously turn back into a horse.
And that horse will be using arch btw.
Freezer burned wooly mammoth goop.
So, like… glue?
I use Arch, BTW.
I feed on your hatred.
I can feel your anger. It makes you stronger, gives you focus.
I’ll never forget the first time I successfully installed arch and got my I3 set up juuust like I wanted it. It felt like I did something. It was great. Fuck you!
Fuck you, too 😘
Needs a Steam Deck owner in the corner playing games, wearing headphones, and ignoring all questions.
I might have created this long before Steam Deck was a thing and just reposted it for fake internet points.
I feel called out
I love how “unbiased” it is and I’m not even an arch user.
Yah, I’m a huge fan of factual content. Biased people suck.
Not sure if ironic, or an incredible idiot.
Could be both. There’s so many lunatics here, you can never be sure.
I don’t use arch btw
No way the Fedora user figured out how to configure partitions in the installer without having to google it at least five times! I’ve installed Fedora a few times over the years, and that UI still makes no sense to me!
Lol I end up just opening gparted, do my stuff, then go and set the partitions in the installer
Lol. I tried to google it too and i still am unable to define a custom home partition for my most recent Nobara install. Gave up and just let it automatically create what it needs.
I just let it do partitioning automatically, or do it manually with GNOME Disks.
I switched a friend from Ubuntu to Fedora specifically because the partition setup during Fedora install is so good. (It was during a new build)
Huh. I had the complete opposite experience. I found fedora’s manual partitioner to be the worst of any distro I’ve ever used (I had trouble understanding it and it always ended up giving me some weird error when trying to finalize the partitioning step). I think I just ended up ditching fedora’s default manual partition manager.
Yeah for some reason whenever i try and install Ubuntu, the installer only sees the primary NVME drive if one is installed. Haven’t had that issue with any other distro
Sounds like a you-problem.
Wtf?! No reason to get insulting.
When did all the 13 year old Redditors invade Lemmy?
I would be so proud of my 13 year old cousin knew this much about Linux.
🎶 wake me up, when September ends…
Ikr? Low-hanging fruit at best.
Debian guy could have just downloaded the nonfree installer that includes some common wifi and other hardware firmwares. There are some pragmatists at Debian.
Also… It’s included in all versions starting with Bookworm.
Well… Say that to my live USB I tried booting off of a machine with a very modern nVidia card. I had to create a new boot entry to disable nouveau and install nVidia proprietary graphics into a persistent partition.
I understand nVidia is shit, and doesn’t play nice with others. But my point is - it’s not always that easy. (I thought it would be! I lost many hours, and pulled out lots of hair!)
The boot entry is for secure boot. It would be required by any distro not just Debian.
It’s not related to secure boot (I have that disabled) it’s related to nouveu drivers not supporting the 4090 (yet)
Not in the good old days. Back in 2000something I built a custom installer image with a backported kernel from testing and some firmware to get debian installed on a new laptop.
You can also install Arch with like 5 keyboard presses too but its a comic not a walkthrough.
before debian 12 though, it was kinda hard to find the nonfree netinstaller on their site
Gentoo is still compiling
… still compiling …
I actually encoutered this the other day.
Me: “Yeah I need reliability for work and sometimes I just don’t have time to repair stuff. Last time I was on rolling release some update fucked my system right before an important deadline”
Other person: “It wOn’T bReAk If YoU UndErStANd iT”
._.
Anyway stable is awesome
Yep and that’s why I refuse to use rolling distros. I don’t need the latest update of everything to game. Give me a stable system any day instead.
Debian or openSUSE Leap for me.
I’ll have you know that I eat a vegetarian not vegan diet and I really don’t have a man bun (got no hair for that) … The stickers on the laptop however really felt like you took a photo of my machine.
Also if it wasn’t obvious I run arch
You eat vegetarians?
I prefer my meat grass-fed
The man bun is more of a mental thing. And, hey, I’m a vegetarian too according to the saying “you are what you eat”.
man I knew this was going to be rough when I saw him wearing a vegan shirt but god DAMN
“All Arch users are stupid vegan crossfitters who never shut up and contribute nothing to society and the only thing they ever care about is making their desktop look l33t and Arch is a horrible distro and did I mention all Arch users are stupid?”
Oh. My. Sides.
I switched from Ubuntu to Arch because I was sick of packages not compiling due to a complete lack of dependency management. I use stock KDE with zero frills and I spend most of my time hacking on open source projects. I never tell anyone what OS I use (unless they ask for recommendations for their new machine, and I’m prepared to also tell them why I personally prefer it) because they don’t care. I’m a normal guy who keeps myself to myself and hates the people who think a pretty desktop is more important than a usable system just as much as everyone else.
However, I use Arch, and Arch bad, which means I must be the most annoying person on the planet.
I mean…
Oh Muh god its the same guy. He won’t stop talking end me please he won’t stop he won’t stfu
You gotta take this less personally.
As an open source maintainer I notice the trend that Arch uses are simultaneously the most likely to have caused the issue themselves and are always the first to blame my software.
I think these memes stem from the fact that a lot of Arch users are less experienced and spend a lot of time trying to create the “perfect” customized experience. Using Arch is a great way to get the experience, but it can be at the detriment of others sometimes.
Basically, learn to take it on the chin and move on. There’s some truth to the memes.
“All Arch users are stupid vegan crossfitters who never shut up and contribute nothing to society and the only thing they ever care about is making their desktop look l33t and Arch is a horrible distro and did I mention all Arch users are stupid?”
Spot on! You could have left out all the text after that.
You use Linux. All Linux users are elitist evangelical douchebags who make every conversation about Linux and how great it is even though it’s worse than Windows. Also you’re probably a criminal, since most Linux users are hackers, and I don’t associate with criminals.
Stereotypes are great, aren’t they?
Does that mean in your analogy that all linux users are femboys 👉👈
if they use gentoo…
Cute, a butthurt Arch user
If that’s a first install, then sure. Otherwise… There was a speedrun installing arch under 2 min…
Might just be an old comic. The above was true a few years ago, but not so much anymore.
Yeah now its like archinstall, check some boxes, maybe google some packages to install at setup and you’re done.
i installed endeavouros really quickly
oof i wish it was that easy. that’s the simple version of what i spent the last 2 weeks doing. On Windows I’d consider myself a power user. I get a lot of work done, quickly, and besides that I would say I’m pretty tech literate over all. But arch is just ridiculously difficult to understand how to use unless you’re already very familiar with linux. I feel like any wrong move i make is gonna break my setup. i got my comptia A+ , which while very basic, definitely goes to show I’m not some random luddite
What is ridiculously difficult to understand?
I installed Linux mint on a trusty old thinkpad. Used it probably 5 times over the course of a year. Then installed arch on a newer T480s I received from work. I am a complete novice. It is literally that easy. You download the arch installer, follow the wiki on the 2 or 3 commands needed for internet, then type archinstall. Thats it. You literally dont even have to install anything else, especially if you choose desktop instead of minimal like I did. I have no idea what anyone is talking about it being difficult. Its easy.
The fact that speedruns for installing Arch even exist kind of proves the point.
How does that work? Do they count user interaction time only by pausing the timer during package downloads?
Or do you need fast internet to play?
Not that I remember finding any rules, so that’s mostly just messing around; technically you can quickly setup your own mirrors in LAN, although I don’t remember if that was done. Stuff was mostly about knowing what to type and blindly pre-typing next commands while previous are still in action
