That whole “a good prosecutor could indict a ham sandwich” was when you could pull your jurors out of a citizen pool that didn’t walk in already believing you were lying through your fucking teeth.
But then they pulled the mask off, and let us all see how they are using the courts for vindictive prosecution and political harassment.
Looks like the ham sammich days are ending, lol.
I just heard about a prosecutor that didn’t get all of his indictments and then sent the jurors that voted against him home and replaced them. That and other stuff, they aren’t even pretending to follow the rules, they think everything is more openly corrupt than it is yet.
But anyway, the courts threw out like 200 indictments because this prick prosecutor didn’t think he had to follow the rules/didn’t know or care what the rules were.
They never pretended much. You’re just looking at it now.
I called this decline into insanity and fascism back in the mid 90s. Also nailed global warming in 2000 or so, and called the nsa’s bullshit years before snowden to name a few.
I am only right on the bad predictions, my good predictions are a shitshow.
I didn’t get it that far back. I blame Pokémon. Except global warming. I was just kind of raised with it as a fact.
Holy shit. That’s some arrogance right there, thinking no one would ever know or find out. Grand juries are secret, but they’re not THAT secret.
they think everything is more openly corrupt than it is yet.
You nailed it.
Of course they didn’t indict him.
I was having ribs with this dude. Couldn’t have been him.
Jury Nullification is like the secret code of the US justice system.That’s why most of the people that work for the system absolutely despised the whole idea.
Any justice system actually. Common law especially though.
Common Law is better than codified law. That’s the only reason we have juries and don’t just let judges decide the fate of the accused. Can you imagine, in this country, judges the sole decider of your case?
The reason that the UK and US have had such cuntish law enforcement is not because of english common law. It should be noted the UK cancelled some of common law’s basic tenants, like the right to a jury trial, not only afforded to indictable offenses, any crime with less than 3 years imprisonment is decided by their famously haughty aristocratic judges now.
They actually passed that??
Yeah, first the Tories maybe 5-7 years back or so cancelled juries for crimes with less than 1 year imprisonment, then Starmer’s labour party just upped it to all crimes less than 3 years.
In the late 19th century they also passed a law where if they thought jury tampering was going to happen they could just do it with a judge, idk how often they have used it though.
The us justice system is already fucked up and make a joke lf the term justice.
I’m sure the GOP will figure out how to get rid of it soon enough
They would have to get rid of juries altogether.
Given that our current legal system was created as a direct reaction to star chambers and baked into the constitution, they have an uphill climb, at the least.
I believe the grand jury system is working as intended
For once yes. Grand Juries at the time of the Constitution were a safeguard against arbitrary and unjust prosecutions. The rulers have since changed what a grand jury is to make it the opposite, a tool of the prosecutors.
Luckily the prosecutors for this administration are so arrogant and incompetent they haven’t been able to maintain that facade of trustworthiness which the masses still afford to dickheads in suits with position.
Of course the judges are so bad it often doesn’t matter, especially when it’s in a shitholy jurisdiction, like those protesters at the Texas Ice that got kangarooed by their dipshit hanging judge down there under preposterous, blatantly unconstitutional charges, cancelling the 1st amendment.
Probably because he was with some of them trading Pokémon cards at the time, couldn’t have been him, everyone has a doppelgänger
Come to think of it, how accurately can facial recognition tell apart to people who look very similar?
Zero. Zero accurately. They don’t even talk about it, because they don’t care. The arbitrary cruelty is a bonus feature.
I bet the manufacturers of these surveillance systems leave a wink wink way for authorities to slip a name in their systems as a hit for something too.
Facial recognition has an inherent bias as well, or at least it did not too long ago. It was mostly trained on white people, so it’s accuracy with non whites was really bad. I’m sure the training data is far more robust now, but that doesn’t necessarily mean better.
This has happened
Not at all, but that’s the court’s problem I guess.
By recognizing faces. Obviously.
He was actually at my place, we were cooking for the homeless. Terrorism actually, with lentils and curry. So which one would the state rather prosecute?
Nah you are confused he was with me feeding the homeless
You must be mistaken, he was helping me load up my truck with mulch for the community garden. He even bought me lunch afterwards.
There is zero information on why they didn’t indict, so I’m not celebrating until we find out why.
It could be that the software isn’t accurate enough to be evidence on its own. Similar to how identifying someone in a lineup is notoriously inaccurate. They may be able to use it for probably cause in a search warrant, but without other supporting evidence, they may not have a case.
The article mentions felony charges - it could also or instead be that it was too high a bar (pun intended) to indict when it should have been a misdemeanor vandalism charge.
They always bring up that quote about being able to indict a ham sandwich but they never specify the charges.
Also doesn’t apply if that’s ham as in cop.
Exactly, twas not merely a ham sandwich, but a decadent smorgasbord of temptation, as charged.
Well back in the 90’s a ham sandwich did choke to death some super obese woman celebrity. I don’t know her name I only know of it secondhand because I don’t watch that kind of entertainment television crap that I think she was.
You may be thinking of Mama Cass in the late 70s, who died of a heart attack but was popularly cited as choking on a ham sandwich?
That is it, momma cass.
So the ham sandwich was framed? Those bastards! I think I did hear that before but didn’t retain the information well.
Book’em Danno.
That’s… not how this works
