Firefox says it will keep supporting uBlock Origin even as Microsoft Edge and other Chromium browsers phase it out under Manifest V3.
So, I can finally point and laugh at the people who were saying that the manifest V3 thing was a non issue because their ad blocker was still working ?
Pihole. Doesn’t solve everything, but I’m currently blocking ads from just over a half million domains.
At this point if you’re not already using a DNS filter of some sort, I have no idea how you survive. I use opnsense with zenarmor for ad blocking and it works really well. Had this going for a long time so no need to try pihole yet. I also use uBlock on my browsers for YouTube and the like. And greyjay on my phone. And I use automation on my phone (if not my WiFi, engage wireguard). I don’t know how I’d stay sane without it all.
I can’t imagine using the web without firefox and ublock. Even the cookie consent popups are awful.
Ublock Lite still works in Chrome (and it still blocks YouTube ads, not sure about cookie popups), but you get no control over the filters. Just a slider with some presets to choose from. So while better than nothing, just stick with Firefox.
LibreWolf, WaterFox and Vivaldi
Seriously. I clear my cookies on Firefox exit because I don’t want their shit on my computer if it isn’t needed.
This would cause me to see them every single damn time.
Yeah, the user experience of “just wipe cookies on browser exit” is a lot better than “have a million prompts all over zillions of sites”.
However, regarding “every single damn time”…some sites can have their “do you want cookies” popup just blocked by the Firefox I still don’t care about cookies addon. It’s not a solution for every site out there, but it’ll get a lot of them.
It’s also possible to use another extension, Behind the Overlay on some sites. This does require a click, so manual action, but it tries to identify “pop-over” content that covers up the browser window and remove it with that click. It’s really intended as a more-general solution to “pop-over” stuff, but cookie pop-ups often take this form and can be dismissed.
You can also just enable one of the “Cookie notices” lists in your ublock settings, no need for another extension.
google is slowly killing their competition by a thousand cuts.
Future is dark:
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Android getting locked down
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They are asking your government ID to use OS, access internet etc.
There must be real protest, revolution, something otherwise it will just get worst
pssst: it’s gonna get worse
Download a shitload of epubs, roms, backup of wikipedia, and get ready for full-on, unmissable, 1984-style marketing and propaganda culture. You’ll see it, you’ll have to see it, and there will be no option B.
What if instead we… stop that from happening?
I’ve got 100tb getting filled. I’m ready. Ok in reality its closer to 60 tb after raid and I’m duplicating the important stuff across 2 devices. But that’s only about 5 tb. But I’m including lots of PDFs epubs and zims as important stuff. The rest is just media.
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Like a true google hate inspired hipster I have been using Firefox for at least the past 9 years. Don’t let one of the shittiest companies control even more of the world because you are too fucking lazy to switch to a different browser. If you have to deal with a few shitty websites made by morons that only work in chrome keep a secondary chromium install on standby when you have to hold your nose and use it.
In my experience even one of the platforms with moronic developers eventually fixed their Firefox support. I dunno if the surge in Linux users had anything to do with it or not, or if it was because I would browser there, make my payments fail then switch to the Falkon browser every single time.
Honestly I can only think of one. Weirdly a “developer platform”
Well I guess a couple more because keyboard firmware sites do that usb browser thing that terrifies me is a thing and only chrome supports.
Firefox recently grew that terrifying WebSerial USB thing!
Nativia is a cross platform electron app that runs on your machine without network access and allows you to configure most of these keyboards. It’s also open source.
I used to buy Ad Busters magazine at a local bookstore back in 1989. I’ve been keenly aware of, and against advertising ever since. Any site I’m forced to watch ads on because blocking no longer works, is a site I’ll stop visiting.
I’ve been using Firefox for ages now so I don’t get it : what’s the point of using Chrome or Edge ?
Cause People. Don’t. Care
Even if something gathers illegal amounts of data, and has removed all ad blocking extensions, they will just use the default.
Solely for when a page only works in Chromium based slop.
I’ve never seen that, which freaking websites only works in Chromium?
I’ve seen glorious corporate interfaces, only functioning in Microsoft Explorer. But only Chromium?
You would think Apple would take the massive opportunity and bake in proper privacy and ad blocking to safari. Wouldn’t hurt their bottom line.
They have pretty good privacy and anti-fingerprinting stuff in Safari, but not ad blocking— although they do have an odd tool for “hiding distracting items“ that can work as an ad hoc ad blocker of sorts. On the other hand, ublock origin light works wonderfully for me. Both on macOS Safari and iOS Safari.
I agree it works good for me as well as is, but it sure would be nice to see one baked in and on by default. It’s legitimately a safety thing, I would never turn an old person loose on the web just raw dog lol guaranteed a disaster. Every computer I’ve ever setup for a friend or family member the first thing I do is get Firefox dl on windows and install ublock if it’s a pc, or get get a blocker going on safari if it’s Mac.
Oh, I agree. It really would be nice if ublock origin light was installed by default.
I haven’t used MacOS or iOS for years so I’m out of the loop, but I thought Safari on both had pretty good extension support? I know Adguard is still great on both, a friend uses it (and I use it on my Linux and Android devices).
A few years ago they made some changes to how extensions work (iirc it was supposedly aimed at improving privacy by restricting what extensions can access).
These days I use a paid iOS/macOS specific ad block app. It was like $3 one time purchase and it works great.
It’s not in a bad state at all, I would just like to see adblockers baked straight into safari and on by default.
I prefer uBlock Origin Lite on Safari. I switched a while back because adblock wasn’t catching ads in YouTube.
WebKit doesn’t run on Windows so this doesn’t matter to them.
You’re missing the point, WebKit not running on windows is exactly why this could be a good move for them. if they can do something better than what’s possible on windows they have a market advantage.
They’d rather people move to their platform and be locked in their ecosystem.
And this would be a way to make people want to do that.
If they ever stop supporting it I will continue to use the last version to support it, any website that breaks compatibility with this Firefox version can get fucked.
Librewolf would probably still support it
That’s a significant security risk, unfortunately.
If that happens, I’d suggest a fork with a built in blocker, one that still gets security patches from upstream Firefox.
Exactly. Ublock origin is notable only for being part of 0 ad companies and 100% trustworthy. The blocking lists are universal. If it’s built into the browser, you’re golden
Well…
With a fork, one is very dependent on the browser dev. Not just on their benevolence, but on their security practices too. And on them pulling in upstream security patches, quickly.
TBH, this is why I do finance stuff on vanilla Firefox. I love browser forks, I really do, but I’m a bit more cautious with them, too.
The most used forks are usually larger teams tbf, not a single dev
True, sometimes. But they don’t have the sheer manpower dedicated to security that Mozilla has, nor the institutional policies that try to mitigate losing a key/account or something like that. Also, technically, vanilla Firefox is first to get the zero-day patches before they filter downstream.
Not that the forks are dangerous or anything, generally.
“Dev” as if it’s just a singular person
Most of the forks are teams of 10-20 devs
I’ll just spend my reading time reading more books than I do now. Forcing me to look at ads will not work.
I’d probably go retro, use something like Dillo and stick to more classic webpages. Or go full Gopher/Gemini.
as a websev, you’re gonna have a bad time
Instead of uBlock Origin rather use AdNauseam. It’s basically uBlock Origin, but it “clicks” on the blocked ads so the ad networks still have to pay website owners.
this is hilarious and I will be trying it when I’m home
With all the malware, etc., clicking on any ad is ill advised.
Ehh, its throwing the response away so there would have to be an exploit that just by receiving a response you are hacked. That would be absurdly bad, with or without AdNauseum
Those exact type of issues have existed in the past it’s why the FBI uses ad blocking and recommends that it’s used for security. There have been several browser vulnerabilities over the years that required absolutely no interaction from the user whatsoever it simply had to load the data.
The whole reason that manifest V3 was such a big deal for unlock origin is that it prevents it from intercepting and stopping the initial connection to The domain in the first place it can only remove it after it’s been received and even that was limited. On Firefox everything is still normal it’s able to completely stop the browser from ever reaching out in the first place
Getting “hacked” via clicking a link and discarding the response is so extremely rare. It would require stringing together some of the most prized zero day vulnerabilities. There is just no world where someone would run that kind of attack on a google ad in the current year.
The best extension :)
+ a mediocre browser
No, you’re a towel
No, you’re a mediocre browser
And his mom is too
Can confirm; Dan’s mom = very mediocre. Not worth the journey to her house 3/10.
Gotem!
What is mediocre about it? What would be an example of a good browser, and what are the differences?
Don’t feed the troll, down vote and move on
Nothing is mediocre about it. All of the “best” browsers are based on FF’s Gecko engine. Maybe they have complaints about Mozilla or the weird stuff they’ve been doing with FF recently. But the actual Gecko engine is solid, and it’s what all the best browsers are based on.
complaints not parsed into action items aren’t worth anyone’s time.
Why?
It’s bait. The only “better” browsers are downstreams of FF.
Yeah, but it does run uBlock Origin, renders web pages just fine, can do WebRTC, and even has support for bookmarks and pinned tabs. What else do you want from a web browser?
Chrome’s advantages were in the security and performance departments. But Firefox isn’t that much worse.
Being unable to use manifest v2 extensions anymore on most chromium based stuff has resulted in me writing off almost all browsers that are base on chromium. Kudos to Firefox for continuing to support it! Let’s hope that does not change at all anytime soon.
Google is locking down Android too!
As far as I know the Google Developer Verification BS won’t reach Custom ROMs right? But yea in the long run it probably makes to make the jump one day or another.
Is there a good small cheap repairable phone out there? I have a fairphone4 and I LOVE /E/ OS. But I would also like to actually USE a linux phone. And I cant experiment as much as I would want on my main phone.
Ive almost thought about carrying a tiny burner phone then a small laptop for everything else.
You named it the Fairphone is the best Linux phone.
You have a point.
…it is a really nice phone.
I just cant afford two. First world problem haha.
I have a fairphone4 and I LOVE /E/ OS. But I would also like to actually USE a linux phone
What do you mean? You can’t use your FP4?
I’m considered getting a FP6 relatively soon, and would be using it as my only one…
I love my FP6
I use android via /e/os. But I cannot experiment with my only phone. There is 2fa and other such services that I have to have access to. Worst case, I cant get into accounts and such.
FF is a great phone btw.
There is 2fa and other such services that I have to have access to. Worst case, I cant get into accounts and such.
That’s my main concern too.
Here in Denmark, the MitID authentification app is completely integral to functioning online, and last I checked it doesn’t work on GrapheneOS, so /e/os is probably not likely either 🫤
I think you should be able to emulate /e/ OS to try out some stuff? Maybe someone else can chime in. Dont know if that helps or not.
My 2fa works in /e/ but im going to assume other OSes probably wont.
You can’t use something like bitwarden for mitid?
Every Linux phone uses an android shim just because it isn’t possible to change the firmware iirc
The Commedore phone, if you want something minimalistic that does have Android compatibility.
I’m looking at preordering it. Shipping now would be Dec-Jan.
Last I was aware, Linux phones work really well on Google Pixel 3as. They’re no longer supported by stock Android nor still manufactured so I assume the second hand ones will be cheap.
I appreciate the response.
I have owned two google phones. Both had hardware issues/battery issues and one almost exploded. One day it got super hot and the battery turned into a spicy pillow. Sorry but im not going to get another google phone as long as I live. Neither lasted more than 2 years.
That’s fair. Which models did you have? I had a couple problems with the earlier Google Pixels, but I’ve found the later ones have really ironed out their hardware problems.
I think your main problem is going to be finding phones for cheap that also work well as Linux phones. I think the lowest-effort options like Pine phones are gonna cost you more. But I wish you luck.
I had a 4 I think? That one lasted about a year and a half before the battery wouldn’t last more than half a day. Then it bricked one day. Not sure what happened.
The 6a was the worst. It was cheap and good at first. But then kept getting hotter and hotter…almost burnt me.
get the new Jolla Linux phone.
That’s the only reason, I use it. And I knew Firefox would be the only one remaining when I switched to it the very moment, Chromium stopped supporting uBlock Origin.
