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  • Maybe just maybe they will see it as a waist of money and ditch it just like Facebook’s metaverse or whatever it was.

    This is what I’m trying to tell you! The only way to do that is tell them it doesn’t work for the intended purpose: helping customers sell Amazon stuff. They don’t care about people messing around with the bot, that’s trivially discarded noise.

    Also I’m sure at this point all my conversion’s are being fed back in to train the next one.

    It is not. It is quickly classified (by a machine) and thrown out.

    If you want to fuck with the training set, get the bot to help you do something simple, then when it actually works, flag it as an error. Then cuss it out if you like. This either:

    • Pollutes the training set with a success as a “bad” response.

    • Creates a lot of work for data crunchers to look for these kind of “feedback lies.”

    And it’s probably the former.


  • Don’t tell it its wrong, leave feedback in a seperate box.

    Not in its chat, but with a feedback button.


    Let me emphasize: the LLM remembers nothing. Amazon does not care about an ‘adversarial’ response. All cussing it out possibly does is factor that into your Amazon ad profile, and not to your benefit.

    And if you tell the bot it did wrong, it does not care. It doesn’t factor into anything.

    But if you legitimately ask it to help you buy something, and it gets that wrong, and you leave dedicated feedback, that registers for Amazon. It tells them their chatbot isn’t working, but actually frustrating customers trying to use it to buy something. That’s how you tank the program.


  • You aren’t talking to AI, you’re talking to chatbots with no memory, nor ability to change their internal state; you don’t have to worry about that. Honestly its a waste of your keystrokes and brainpower, as you are shouting into a void.

    …If you want to attack it, try getting it to actually do something (like find me an item with X requirements), then give feedback that its wrong if theres a button for it. That does get registered.






  • For all the criticism of AI, this is the one that’s massively overstated.

    On my PC, the task energy of a casual diffusion attempt (let’s say a dozen+ images in few batches) on a Flux-tier model is 300W * 240 seconds.

    That’s 54 kilojoules.

    …That’s less than microwaving leftovers, or a few folks browsing this Lemmy thread on laptops.

    And cloud models like Nano Banana are more efficient than that, batching the heck out of generations on wider, more modern hardware, and more modern architectures, than my 3090 from 2020.


    Look. There are a million reasons corporate AI is crap.

    But its power consumption is a meme perpetuated by tech bros who want to convince the world scaling infinitely is the only way to advance it. That is a lie to get them money. And it is not the way research is headed.

    Yes they are building too many data centers, and yes some in awful places, but that’s part of the con. They don’t really need that, and making a few images is not burning someone’s water away.