Global Capitalism > Discrete Imperialism
remember when A ps3 was considered militarily significant…
good old days
Well the airforce did build a PS3 supercomputer
True fact!
As a side note, I’ve been learning about how weird the ps3 cell architecture is, and why it’s so hard to emulate.
It’s the NVIDIA Jetson Orin NX 16 GB. From the Ampere family, 3.5 years old. Small Tegra SoC.
I guess something like this is a typical dual use good, and doesn’t fall under the AI Chip export restriction either because it’s too weak. Seems like it would be trivial for Russians to import them from China or India or whomever really.
That’s actually a lot more recent than I expected. Was guessing something fairly ancient and pre-sanctions, like 2018. Interesting.
Can it play doom?
It IS doom
It makes sense to use Machine Learning technology (not the Generative crap, the actual pattern recognition stuff) for terminal target recognition.
The surprise would be if Russia did not use AI in their newest cruise missile design - just because their society is fucked up and their leadership is a socipathic, disconnected autocrat surrounded by yes men that put his own personal pride above the lives of millions of his countrymen, doesn’t mean Russia doesn’t have the people with the technical knowledge to design systems with AI (though certainly far fewer of those than they had before they tried to invade Ukraine, since a ton of the Russians with the highest qualifications left).
I mean, given them another 50 years or so in their current trajectory, but for now they’re probably still capable of creating their own high-tech solutions in focused applications.
As someone with previous defense connections, I’d been wondering when we’d see this.
ITAR has severely restricted access to nav system tech export, but there was always this open question about reckoning position by visual cues rather than GPS + dead reckoning. We all knew it was technically feasible, but we assumed that having “visual” cues was further out because AI at the time wasn’t up to the task.
The answer is the same, though. Nvidia, willing or not, is now a defendant in an unjust war, and must be subpoena’d by the ICC. At a minimum, they should be immediately sanctioned by foundry specialists (like ASML) until they are prepared to account for how, exactly, this tech ended up in a Russian missile.
Nvidia, willing or not, is now a defendant in an unjust war, and must be subpoena’d by the ICC.
Subpoenas only exist in the US. Since it did not sign the Rome treaty, and since Nvidia is an American company - the ICC has no power here.
ITAR has severely restricted access to nav system tech export, but there was always this open question about reckoning position by visual cues rather than GPS + dead reckoning. We all knew it was technically feasible, but we assumed that having “visual” cues was further out because AI at the time wasn’t up to the task.
There’s always going back to the old-fashioned method of having a trained pigeon inside of the device instead of a sophisticated computer vision system.
Or the pigeon can be the drone itself, what a wonderful world it is
we assumed that having “visual” cues was further out because AI at the time wasn’t up to the task.
For just terrain recognition, the US has had that since before there was GPS. Since the 1950s even.
Lots of cheap plane-type drones do terrain navigation now. And the Russians are busily deploying their military version of Starlink.
Plenty of western tech still ends up in Russian weapons, it’s nothing new. NVidia should be just put in queue.
Plenty of western tech still ends up in Russian weapons
and they too should be held accountable.
If I can’t buy lower-priced Chinese RAM, then Russia shouldn’t be able to make weapons with our tech
I know that’s not how it works but it should be
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The unjust war CIA and MI6 took great pains and a long time to prepare you mean?
Sources? Credible or incredible; just not some Telegram channel please. Open www.
The rest of your comment is just whataboutism, and writing “you people” on social media always says more about the writer’s mental health than about said people. No disrespect.
America is a terrorist nation and if you can’t see it… I dunno what to tell you, man.
Odd to consider that Nvidia is now an arms dealer.
It’s a more efficient, direct, and profitable method for destroying the planet.
See also almost all “technology” under capitalism.
That said, Linux is not exempt from being used in weapons.
The fucktard who made the Oculus Rift likes to use my preferred operating system to kill people. Tech is a wild world.
Edit: actually not just tech. Capitalism is just evil in general and polutes everything both literally and metaphorically
We live in a world where it’s sorta just widely understood that the bottled-water chocolate-bar company murders people for profit on the regular
It’s all fucked at every level
Palmer Luckey is the goofiest looking cunt out hey. Imagine looking at yourself in the mirror with that stupid goatee and thinking you know what would go well with this, a hawaian shirt. Imagine having so much but being worth so little. What a fucken loser.
Not to mention the mullet! He’s certainly made some choices.
You can tell who is evil by their company being named after Lord of the Rings lore.
Shall we mention also The Banana Company and, well, South America?
Always have been. Orin nano/nx SoMs are in all sorts of weapons systems. NixOS had a whole community civil war because Anduril heavily adopted NixOS and integrated it with Jetpack, the BSP that these run. They’re kind of a PITA to use (fuck you WayneWWW…IYKYK) but they’re easily the highest performance SoM of that size and the power consumption is workable for these kinds of…short lived systems. I think they started out targeting automotive applications and never really took off in the commercial world despite being comparable to Apple silicon in performance because they have no power saving modes. They ended up being perfect for doing real time object detection from a MIPI camera though so now they’re the gold standard for bleeding edge slaughterbots.
Before the Orin, a lot of more experimental systems were using the TX2i and Xavier modules, but they had much less computing power and the image recognition models weren’t as capable anyway.
This guy tegras
Interesting, thanks. I’ve seen NixOS requirements in german military projects. And it is very interesting looking at western downed drone teardowns in the Ukraine. I kept looking for NVidia logo there.
Nvidia doesn’t really put a big logo on anything, but if you know the shape of the modules they’re easy to spot.
All of the tech giants discovered that there is much more money to be made making tech for dystopian authoritarian governments than gamers. It was inevitable I guess.
Just look at the long, long, LONG list of American and European companies helping Israel murder little children…
much more money to be made making tech for dystopian authoritarian governments
Like the US/western Oligarch Regimes for instance…
Yeah, and also Russian/Chinese oligarch regimes. What’s your point?
“Vhen rockets go up, who cares vhere zey come down? Zat’s not my department!”
Sarcasm aside, you can buy these in dev kits on MicroCenter:
https://www.microcenter.com/product/691058/nvidia-jetson-orin-nano-super-developer-kit
Which means the components are pretty widely available. I’m not sure how you’d prevent someone from ordering a bunch to an in-between country and then shipping them on to Russia after.
I wonder whether it’d be possible by tracking serial numbers. You might get the first customer.
You? TBH I wouldn’t do this because I don’t really care.
Capitalism is evil and tracking some shipment for the benefit of some empire won’t change that at all.
You might get the first customer.
… and then you find something like a Philippinian trading giant where you still can’t know or do a thing.
You could ban them from further sales. Or apply moar tariffs to them.
Potentially, assuming they weren’t stolen or sold off to a secondary buyer from a legit first customer. Problem is another one just pops up in its place.
I’m not saying don’t persue them, I’m saying it’s a game of state funded whack’a’mole.
Even if they were stolen, you at least know the origin. But yes, it’s not easy to stop leaks of publicly sold items.
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Oh yeah? Well Russia found a copy of The Sims 3 in a Ukrainian Neptune missile, so now they’re even!
oh, that washing machine technology is getting more and more advanced.
Ironically my washing machine has a big AI logo on the front.
Has it passed the Turing Test?
(JK. The tests are bullshit too.)
Jensen Huang – Le noveau marchand de la mort
Has to be fake. Russia is out of missiles since years.
Tell it the Ukrainian citizens whose homes are being blown up. Are the Russians blowing up buildings with mind control now?
Eh how do you come to this information?
Ukraine is defending against Russian missiles for years.
Maybe it was some kind of sarcastic jab, but I don’t really understand the point either
