• whereitsat@lemmy.zip
    82·
    19 hours ago

    think about how many industries and personalities are propped up because america conceals the simple reality of losing weight: a calorie deficit. like, so much wealth depends on people not being able to comprehend obvious text on the back of a package.

    • Cease@mander.xyz
      7·
      17 hours ago

      The reality is the majority of all healthy food in the US is gated behind high prices, forcing the average/low income consumer into eat foods high in large amounts of globally banned dyes and syrups, which results in massive weight gain unless you buy into the weight loss meds, unless you want to do something crazy like eat beans and rice for every meal.

      this + all the hostile city planning preventing you from walking anywhere means that it’s both very easy to gain weight and very hard to lose it once you have it

      Anyway, this is a harder problem to solve than dumb gotchas like “why don’t americans just exercise more, why don’t americans just calorie watch”

      • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
        3·
        16 hours ago

        Vegetables are not that “gated.” Processed foods that are “health washed” are gated, the stuff that’s in the health food sections or organic sections of stores. The problem is with fresh food is that it cannot always be consumed before spoiling, and waste is painful if you’re poor, processed foods are quick and easy when you’re working 2-3 jobs and are shelf stable for much longer periods, and on top of that people just don’t always learn how to cook fresh or do things like meal prep for a week. The time just isn’t there.

        Yeah, the shopping access part is true. I frequently make 2-3 trips to the store for meals in a week thanks to close-by stores and the convenience of a vehicle. If you’re poor and maybe have to take public transportation (in the US) it makes groceries a whole other chore you don’t have time for.

    • mirshafie@europe.pub
      4·
      19 hours ago

      Yeah but just eating less processed foods, more vegetables and never drink your calories will get you a very long way even if you eat the same number of calories.

      Also walk instead of drive.

    • CyberTheProtogen@lemmy.zip
      21·
      15 hours ago

      It’s also incredibly important to remember that not eating anything at all will trigger your body to turn your proteins and muscles into fat in attempt to help you survive longer. Do not just not eat for a day or few. I have a friend who tried that. Didn’t work.

      • thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        11 hours ago

        That is not all that accurate; “muscle mass” lost during a relatively short fast (1-2 days) is due to glycogen depletion - ie. you’re burning your sugar stores, and your body sheds 3-4mL of stored water for every gram of glycogen burned.

        If you stop to think about it, it’s a bit nonsensical to claim that the body would burn additional calories (that it doesn’t have) to convert existing muscle into fat, rather than just burn existing fat stores as a fall-back source of energy.

        Muscle breakdown only really begins when the body starts to experience a significant shortfall in required essential amino acids over a prolonged period of time, or significant physical stress.

      • village604@adultswim.fanEnglish
        1·
        11 hours ago

        And hormone issues can play a huge role in how your body processes and uses the fuel you give it. It’s not always as simple as calories in/out.

    • solidheron@sh.itjust.works
      11·
      14 hours ago

      I don’t think weight loss is just a caloric deficit. Simple because bodies can adjust their metabolism and it’s not 100% in peoples control.

      I could say discipline isn’t in these wealthy peoples minds.

      • bitchkat@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        11 hours ago

        That just means the person needs less calories to maintain weight. In order to lose weight, they still need to consume less calories than they burn.

    • krisevol@lemmus.orgEnglish
      23·
      17 hours ago

      Counting calories hasn’t with since the obesity epidemic started, and it won’t work now.

      Also for thousands of years humans haven’t counted calories, and we’re not obese.

      For the most part (excluding athletes,body builders,ect), only fat people calories.

        • krisevol@lemmus.orgEnglish
          1·
          12 hours ago

          Counting calories works on a thermodynamics level, not a human level.

          The real problem is hormones.

          This is why drugs pike glp1 work. Is not burning more calories, it’s making people eat less. This makes people lose weight. But it’s not a cure, in fact it’s a bandaid that will fail the way it’s being used, and the data already supports this. People on glp gain the weight back after use, or even continue use after 2 years.

          The problem is insulin. The more blood sugar spikes we get the more insulin we produce and the more weight we gain. This isn’t a much of a problem in younger humans, but after a while, other hormones like estrogen and testosterone get stored in the fat as well. This causes a ton of problems.

          Is we attack the hormone issue, people lose weight. One of the easiest way is installing a blood sugar monitor and linking it to your phone. Cut out food that spikes insulin and maintaining a calorie intake to match bmr gets easy.

          Is we continue to tell people to count calories, we will continue to fail like we have for the past 30 years of this epidemic because will power is a finite resource that gets burned up.

          Another thing we find with the calories in calories out equation is reducing calories for a long period also reduces calories out. Say we reduce 200 calories from 2000 to 1800, in the long run our bmr goes to 1800 with the same macro ratios.

          The math is absolute for body weight, but isn’t absolute is the humans ability to maintain the diet, hence why people fail.

          The other think to consider for macro is body composition. Two people can eat 2500 calories day for long periods and have two completely different body types. One will be fat, and one will be ripped. This is due to insulin storing energy, and one might have higher ketone levels and gain more muscle leading to different bmr outputs.

          For body builders or underweight people, they find it’s incredibly hard to gain weight,due to trying to power though high satiation levels, while some people gain fat when at a 1800 calorie diet, and they feel incredibly hungry so day. The difference is the insulin levels.

          We can see this is humans with diabetes type 1, it’s near impossible for those people to gain weight no matter what they eat. Is because the human body can’t store energy without insulin. A couple of doctors are even say using insulin in type 2 diabetes are the worse thing we are doing, because it causes the problem to become worse. They are now putting blood sugar monitor on these patients and looking to limit insulin spikes and some have even reversed their diabetes completely. Patients that receive insulin as part of there condition almost never reverse their condition.

  • TIEPilot@lemmy.world
    6·
    1 day ago

    The inception of shit posts. Now I need ladders, fireman and pizza delivery…

    Oh and a shepherd.

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