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  • Feathercrown@lemmy.world
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    16 minutes ago

    The water consumption thing is such a meme. Power consumption? Yup. Waste heat? We got that. Pollution? I don’t know but I can take a guess!

    Water? Eh. Barely.

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      18 hours ago

      To be fair almonds, soy and a lot of stuff that we grow is AWFUL for the environment. One of the largest driving forces behind ramping up production of those plants is also veganism. Or more accurately the demand for vegan alternatives.

      A lot of the key plants are some of the worse monocrops we have in terms of water use and environmental damage.

      The rise of vegan alternative demand has at this point actually made it so that vegan diets are technically worse then a normal one for the environment.

      A lot of those plants are also starting to cause huge problems with natural habitats all over the place. Which is rather funny when you consider that one of the main talking points vegans like to bring out is meat is murder. But the rise in inefficient monocropping has killed more animals and habitats then cattle has now.

      Its just a massive cluster fuck. Monocropping is killing our land and using our drinking water. Meat is killing our land and using our drinking water. Data center is kill our land and using our drinking water.

      Everything is just being scaled to infinitely no thought to actually preventing harm. All of it slowly killing everything around it till there’s nothing left.

      Its great! Every time a vegan tries to yell at me about eating a nice stake and how I’m killing animals. I just get to point out their diet is murdering natural pollinators all over the place killing habitats and has caused the death of more woodland, creatures, plants, insects and other things than I could ever hope to kill by just eating a nice juicy steak.

      Really makes them mad

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    20 hours ago

    The almond industry is also unfathomably lethal to bees. If you care about bees, eat honey, not almonds—honey producers need their bees alive and well, while almond growers merrily slaughter them by the billions to force off season crops into existence.

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      18 hours ago

      Mono cropping in general has killed so many insects. It’s truly absurd. The knock-on effects and damage to the habitats around farms is wild because of it. Unironically plants are murder.

      Humans are really bad at not killing everything.

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        3 hours ago

        The majority of the plants we grow are fed to animals first which reduces the calories by over 8x. So if anyone wants to reduce their “plant murder” that’s a good place to start.

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        4 hours ago

        Ironically the same bees OP is lamenting about are the reason so many pollinators have died off.

        Honey bees are aggressive foragers, and it’s really a shame we rely on monocrops because it means we also rely on the same honey bees that are killing all our native bees and pollinators.

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    17 hours ago

    I’m sure people don’t irrigate almonds with drinking water. The comparison is kind of meaningless…

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      16 hours ago

      Unless they use salt water they draw from the same supply of groundwater or surface water as drinking water.

      Drinking water is usually surface water or groundwater pumped from a lake/river or a drilled hole in the ground passed through a filter, an UV light to kill bacteria, and possibly some chemicals added to get the correct pH.

      The limiting factor for how much drinking water you can make is how much you can pump out of the ground/lake before it dries up.

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        2 hours ago

        You don’t know much about irrigation or farming do you? I don’t know about the US but here in the EU, at least where I live, there is like a 2 magnitude difference between pumping water from a channel versus buying tap water.

        Its like ploting the number of people buying food at a fast food joint and a Michelin star restaurant. While both serv food it’s weird and misleading to compare it…

        And why do you mention salt water? How is that a factor? Neither uses salt water.