Not a sysadmin but just an hobbyist: is it ok to have such a large install bare metal and not containerized?
For example the issue of MySQL 5 being unavailable would be a non-issue with a container
Wait until you learn that Hetzner can and will take your public IP away at their own will without any warning. Happened to me.
One downtime is enough for me to never use that service again, no matter how cheap it is.
Me running everything on a single postgress instance on my shitbox 0€/month
0? My energy company says I’m using power equivalent to a family of eight. And it’s just wifey , the servers and me. I had cops here asking if I grow weed 😁
So unless you steal power, it surely isn’t close to 0 😁
How does running a server, assuming it’s used some amount of internet bandwidth, handle residential internet speeds? If I’ve got a gig up and down, can I reasonably run like a jellyfin for my friends?
If I’ve got a gig up and down, can I reasonably run like a jellyfin for my friends?
Easily
I realised I don’t need my servers being online 24/7, so for me that’s Raspberry Pi and equivalents, plus powering on computers on demand.
A trick I realized a few years ago: Caddy has a module you can build it with that does WOL. So I was able to run a Caddy reverse proxy that woke up my higher powered server on demand, and let it go back to sleep when I wasn’t using it. Might be a bad idea for a database sever, but for my uses it was pretty simple and effective.
Oh. Okay. That comes close to 0. Mine runs 24/7, just because it would take too long to power down and up all machines, VMS, switches etc 😁
More likely your system is more sophisticated, I have just joined the hobby, so to say. But I am sure you can go much cheaper than that with bare metal. If I’d really need to host something, I’d rather buy a real server, and invest in solar power instead of paying some rent. Was a happy Digital Ocean customer, before I realised I can do the same with a Raspberry Pi. I was buying a couple of Pis a year for them. Right now, de-facto one Pi can host everything I really need. I regret I wasted about half a thousand on nothing. Could have bought a great NUC instead of wasting money on the cheapest VM for years.
Yeah solar power is much more affordable these days. I live in a vehicle so I have a 500w panel on the roof charging a 200ah lithium battery. I only use a laptop and steam deck, but could easily upscale. The whole system, including the victron controllers & shunt and the 2k inverter came out around £700, but I’m pretty sure stuff has only got cheaper since I bought it. I have way more power than I need in summer, though there are maybe two months in winter when I have to charge everything in daylight. I could always add a small wind generator if I needed. Renewables are totally feasible these days
I also self host and I wouldn’t say the cost is zero. In the UK, energy costs alone mean that a 40W computer cost £8 per month to run (assuming a 28p/kWh price).
Of course, that’s assuming you run it 24/7 at full energy use, but I know my PCs run on more than that.
I got solars, my energy bill is very low, its like 40€ for 3 months
So jealous. My energy bill is like £130/m and £80 of that is electricity.
You might wanna do the math on solars, even if its a cloudy place like the UK, their lifespan and nearly 0 upkeep makes them great value
I don’t own a house yet, like most people in the UK under 40, but when I do I will definitely consider it.
I have 50.000 dollars of server hardware and zero visitors. 😵😜
Seems like it would have been a good moment to split the database from the many web servers and reduce the single point of failure.
And get some replication in there. Even if there’s not a single point of failure, if a DB instance ever goes tits-up, you’d better have a standby.
Source: I’ve cleaned up others’ messes where they didn’t.
I love how they censored the title on the orange site, to have no price in it.
I’m in the US and when I tried migrating from DO to Hetzner, I got asked to upload my passport to prove I’m not spam or something. Same experience with OVH.
Is this a thing for all European hosting companies? I ended up finding some Canadian hosting that would just let me sign up and pay like normal.
When I signed up at Hetzner, I had to go through the same anti-abuse check. However I could choose to not upload my ID and pre-pay 20€ instead. Did that and have been a happy customer since.
Lots of respectable EU hosting companies, and also aparently OVH, if they think there’s a chance you’re taking the piss will ask for a ID so they can ban you. It’s not just anti-spam, it’s anti-abuse and for preventing non-payment. They think there was a risk involved in accepting your business (whatever that may be, obviously companies don’t dilvulge their criteria here), and if you go elsewhere they’re not upset about it for that reason.
Good. I’m sick of all those ddos attack and bot attacks from other cloud provides like alibaba etc.
I never had that kind of experience with Hetzner or OVH as a European. I suppose there are extra hoops to jump through for US customers for some reason?
I’m European and had to do the same, so it’s based on something else.
I don’t like uploading IDs. But recently I block almost all datacenters across the world due to ddos attack or other malicious attacks on my websites. So I don’t think it’s a bad idea to keep the web better. It’s a mess today due to all those cheap cloud providers
Is this a thing for all European hosting companies?
Absolutely not. At least not in Europe.
Have you tried netcup as well?
Let’s see! 🤞
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