A few, like Tesla, have successfully made cars that act and feel like consumer devices—vehicles with lots of tech features, **** and a steady stream of meaningful software updates. Most are playing catch-up.
Ah, but they do. You have to be in this industry to realize just how stupid people can be. They will impulse buy a $60,000 car based on steering wheel shape and bullshit gadgetry. A friend boasted he could sell a car for $5K more just by hanging reflective cat toys around the interior. Tesla sales were driven by the big iPad more than the electric drive.
Tesla sales were driven by an $8,000 tax credit that doesn’t exist anymore. That company is sinking faster than the Titanic now that the tax credit has disappeared.
Yes they do. The internet is a loud minority on both ends. The majority is silent because they don’t give a shit about the politics of the CEO or privacy or reasonable expectations about their mobility appliance. It’s just an appliance. The more cool things it claims to do, the more it sells because the people buying NEW want it to look new.
This thread is full of “I don’t buy new, but here’s what new cars should do”. No, I don’t buy new either.
I want this car sooooo bad, the price pre-american tarrifs is absolutely amazing.
all car manufacturers have been phoning it in for years, it was only a matter of time before a decent threat decided to join in on the fun. I thought it would be tesla to be the major disrupter over ten years ago, but we all know how this is panning out lol
Ugh… He’s not impressed with the gasoline free, infinitely superior propulsion technology - he’s impressed by how much the in vehicle systems are like smartphones.
I threw up a little. We’re never escaping this bullshit.
I hate this chasing of overly complicated and excessive software in cars. The only touchscreen I want in my car is the one that let’s me run Android Auto for GPS and music. Everything else should be tactile analog switches and dials. Whichever person thought touchscreens are a safe UI choice in a fast moving death machine is insane.
Rest of the world if you live in Europe or China where they have enough bargaining power from their size I suppose. Doubt this will work in smaller countries and regions. Only hope is that the manufacturers feel that it’s not worth it to make 2 different models of the same car.
It’s nice to have it on a fixed screen of decent size rather than on a floppy mount and a 6.x" screen. The car screen doesn’t need to be a touchscreen though. My Mercedes had Carplay with a rotary dial, no touchscreen. That was when they were still being conservative with their tech, then they went the hyperscreen route.
Most Chinese cars now have one long screen along the dashboard. It’s generally split in 3 sections, one for the driver, one for controls and one for the passenger with controls but also to play media. Plus most Chinese cars have voice commands.
Having been in many a Chinese Didi, the touch screens aren’t just bad for UI, they also have things like video backgrounds and advertising built in. Distracted driving waiting to happen.
That’s Elon “Why would we need lidar? Humans don’t use lidar, they just use their eyes and there’s no reason technology could possibly improve on human vision” Musk?
The other guy who went to China and was shocked was the CEO of Ford. He is driving a Xiaomi SU7 that he’s refusing to give up. Read the interview he gave after he visited China. https://insideevs.com/news/764318/ford-ceo-china-evs-humbled/
I’m really not surprised. Detroit hires engineers but they suck the creativity out of them and just make the same tired shit decade after decade.
“smooth digital interfaces”
Nobody actually fucking wants this!
Ah, but they do. You have to be in this industry to realize just how stupid people can be. They will impulse buy a $60,000 car based on steering wheel shape and bullshit gadgetry. A friend boasted he could sell a car for $5K more just by hanging reflective cat toys around the interior. Tesla sales were driven by the big iPad more than the electric drive.
Tesla sales were driven by an $8,000 tax credit that doesn’t exist anymore. That company is sinking faster than the Titanic now that the tax credit has disappeared.
Yes they do. The internet is a loud minority on both ends. The majority is silent because they don’t give a shit about the politics of the CEO or privacy or reasonable expectations about their mobility appliance. It’s just an appliance. The more cool things it claims to do, the more it sells because the people buying NEW want it to look new.
This thread is full of “I don’t buy new, but here’s what new cars should do”. No, I don’t buy new either.
The alternative at this point is laggy digital interfaces unfortunately.
I want this car sooooo bad, the price pre-american tarrifs is absolutely amazing.
all car manufacturers have been phoning it in for years, it was only a matter of time before a decent threat decided to join in on the fun. I thought it would be tesla to be the major disrupter over ten years ago, but we all know how this is panning out lol
Have you seen their SUV, Xiaomi YU7? I’m not a SUV kinda guy but that is my favorite car right now.
yes! very nice car as well
Ugh… He’s not impressed with the gasoline free, infinitely superior propulsion technology - he’s impressed by how much the in vehicle systems are like smartphones.
I threw up a little. We’re never escaping this bullshit.
I hate this chasing of overly complicated and excessive software in cars. The only touchscreen I want in my car is the one that let’s me run Android Auto for GPS and music. Everything else should be tactile analog switches and dials. Whichever person thought touchscreens are a safe UI choice in a fast moving death machine is insane.
Touchscreens are cheaper to install than tactile buttons. That’s the draw for carmakers.
Amen.
Stop providing distractions to the assholes around me, they are dangerous enough as it is.
There’s still hope for the rest of the world
https://www.autoblog.com/news/europe-and-china-now-require-physical-buttons-in-cars-will-the-us-follow
They did that just to fuck over Tesla in China.
Rest of the world if you live in Europe or China where they have enough bargaining power from their size I suppose. Doubt this will work in smaller countries and regions. Only hope is that the manufacturers feel that it’s not worth it to make 2 different models of the same car.
I don’t even need that. We all literally carry a gps device with a touch screen in our pockets at all times
It’s nice to have it on a fixed screen of decent size rather than on a floppy mount and a 6.x" screen. The car screen doesn’t need to be a touchscreen though. My Mercedes had Carplay with a rotary dial, no touchscreen. That was when they were still being conservative with their tech, then they went the hyperscreen route.
Most Chinese cars now have one long screen along the dashboard. It’s generally split in 3 sections, one for the driver, one for controls and one for the passenger with controls but also to play media. Plus most Chinese cars have voice commands.
Having been in many a Chinese Didi, the touch screens aren’t just bad for UI, they also have things like video backgrounds and advertising built in. Distracted driving waiting to happen.
That would be everyone’s favourite Elon Musk
That’s Elon “Why would we need lidar? Humans don’t use lidar, they just use their eyes and there’s no reason technology could possibly improve on human vision” Musk?
Humans don’t… Sheesh. Humans crash cars, asshole! Use the bloody lidar!
LIDAR is shit in rain and fog.
The problem here is poor driver training, not lack of gadgets.
The problem is cars themselves. Bad technology overall, imo
Human drivers, if they could get LIDAR with their car, would probably also use it.
Why not aim for better than what humans can do?