The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force. The class which has the means of material production at its disposal, has control at the same time over the means of mental production, so that thereby, generally speaking, the ideas of those who lack the means of mental production are subject to it. The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships, the dominant material relationships grasped as ideas.
I’ll assume the typical leftist political context of it’s use implying an ‘aspirational’ view of my fellow humans they would often fall short of due to material concerns.
But? Nah who would ever claim certainty in this type of casual anonymous interlingual forum?
Just to be clear, by idealism we mean the conception that thought is prior to matter, ie supernatural explanations for material phenomena. We do not mean having ideals. An example of idealism is ascribing a morality to the state to begin with. There is no such thing as a supernatural “good or evil,” and that’s why Marxists reject such frames of argument.
Oh look, on of my favorite trolls crawls out of his hole again after long slumber. Last I checked, Beria was executed while your oligarchs continue to be untouchable. Thank your for providing us with a concrete example of the Soviet system being superior.
Last I checked, Epstein also ended up dying prematurely, while Stalin continued to be untouchable (who btw. married a 14 year old).
Thank you for providing us with an concrete example of all states being the the same shit.
Edit: Ok, apparently Stalin’s second wife was 18 when they married (he was 40 at the time). Sounds like he waited until it was formally legal to do so…
Sounds like he waited until it was formally legal to do so…
So a nothingburger. It is absolutely unacceptable by today’s standard for me and many more, not all since in Mexico it’s still fairly common, but Stalin did it in the early 20th century in an especially underdeveloped region, the fact that he “waited” is already a progressive stance for his epoch. Also there is an abyss of difference between marrying a young girl than having a collection or harem of girls to rape whenever one feels like.
Epstein was just a harem manager for the rich fucks who continue to run around completely unaccountable. Meanwhile, others already pointed out your attempts to spread misinformation here. I guess carrying water for the empire by trying to do the whole both sides bad is really the core identity for anarchists.
Stalin’s first wife, Ekaterina Svanidze, was 21 years old when they married in 1906. His second wife, Nadezhda Alliluyeva, was 18 years old at the time of their marriage in 1919.
Yet still not a pedophile as you were trying to say. Almost like you have an agenda you really want to push. One that really coincides with that of the Epstein alliance.
Allegations from Montefiore famous for lying about having access to unreleased Soviet archives, being a rabid anti-communist and being best friends with Ghislaine Maxwell. Certainly not the most reliable source.
Doesn’t this apply to almost every country?
projecting lol
Americans are always amazed that different countries have different histories.
I’ve heard similar things about “aren’t all countries founded on native genocide?”
Ok tell me about the country with the moral founding.
Vietnam.
Ireland?
Ireland is a bourgeois democracy, otherwise known as a bourgeois dictatorship.
https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Library:The_German_ideology#Ruling_class_and_ruling_ideas
The world’s tax haven now but I’ll go with ya for a cool thousand years.
This silly, idealist question isn’t the gotcha you think it is.
Actually it’s pretty foundational anarchist doctrine.
Christianity is anarchist doctrine?
Idealism?
I guess?
But I was referring to the innate immorality of the state.
But I won’t deny a certain amount of idealism is required to be an anarchist.
Are you sure you understand what idealism means in this context?
I’ll assume the typical leftist political context of it’s use implying an ‘aspirational’ view of my fellow humans they would often fall short of due to material concerns.
But? Nah who would ever claim certainty in this type of casual anonymous interlingual forum?
Just to be clear, by idealism we mean the conception that thought is prior to matter, ie supernatural explanations for material phenomena. We do not mean having ideals. An example of idealism is ascribing a morality to the state to begin with. There is no such thing as a supernatural “good or evil,” and that’s why Marxists reject such frames of argument.
You’re bolstering my case, given anarchism’s track record. Communism is founded on historical materialism, not on morality or idealism.
But you don’t have to subscribe to communism to get value out of letting go of moralism.
Cool nobody asked.
just because you lack any inquisitiveness on your part, don’t assume the same for everyone else
certainly true for capitalist ones
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavrentiy_Beria#Sexual_predation
And now I remember why I have tagged as a defender of Rhodesia.
Right, because I stated historically accurate facts 🤡 Just like I did here. Lemmy.ml users are such a joke.
great example of accountability in the USSR, in the US the rapists become president!
Oh look, on of my favorite trolls crawls out of his hole again after long slumber. Last I checked, Beria was executed while your oligarchs continue to be untouchable. Thank your for providing us with a concrete example of the Soviet system being superior.
Last I checked, Epstein also ended up dying prematurely, while Stalin continued to be untouchable (
who btw. married a 14 year old).Thank you for providing us with an concrete example of all states being the the same shit.
Edit: Ok, apparently Stalin’s second wife was 18 when they married (he was 40 at the time). Sounds like he waited until it was formally legal to do so…
So a nothingburger. It is absolutely unacceptable by today’s standard for me and many more, not all since in Mexico it’s still fairly common, but Stalin did it in the early 20th century in an especially underdeveloped region, the fact that he “waited” is already a progressive stance for his epoch. Also there is an abyss of difference between marrying a young girl than having a collection or harem of girls to rape whenever one feels like.
You’ve been so blackpilled by capitalist realism that you think it makes you enlightened. It’s a form of self-reinforcing learned helplessness.
Epstein was just a harem manager for the rich fucks who continue to run around completely unaccountable. Meanwhile, others already pointed out your attempts to spread misinformation here. I guess carrying water for the empire by trying to do the whole both sides bad is really the core identity for anarchists.
Stalin’s first wife, Ekaterina Svanidze, was 21 years old when they married in 1906. His second wife, Nadezhda Alliluyeva, was 18 years old at the time of their marriage in 1919.
More Montefiore nonsense no doubt.
Ok, I stand corrected about Stalin not being a totally upstanding person of 40 years old when he married his second wife that just barely turned 18 🙄
This is just silly. Keep moving the goalposts further and further from the founding, child-raping slavers.
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Yet still not a pedophile as you were trying to say. Almost like you have an agenda you really want to push. One that really coincides with that of the Epstein alliance.
Most of the victims of Epstein were also around 18 years old.
Almost like you are coming to the defense of convicted rapists like Beria.
zionist montefiore probably has a totally nuanced perspective to write a biography about stalin, no doubt!
Allegations from Montefiore famous for lying about having access to unreleased Soviet archives, being a rabid anti-communist and being best friends with Ghislaine Maxwell. Certainly not the most reliable source.
You’re not wrong like
no, he’s actually both wrong and dishonest in making a false equivalence there
That’s rich being accused of whataboutism by you 😅
That’s not what whataboutism is, and even when used correctly, it’s often done in bad faith.
Looks like we have another expert in whataboutism here 🤡
I’m not judging or anything, but are you just a masochist by any chance? That would explain a lot of your behavior here at least.
when you definitely know what false equivalence is 🤣