Sue baby sue
Also this is the best part in the article:
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Let’s not forget about this part:
On Christmas Eve, five days after the interview with Fargo police, the case was dismissed, and she was released from jail.
But, Lipps was now stranded in Fargo.
“I had my summer clothes on, no coat, it was so cold outside, snow on the ground, scared, I wanted out but I didn’t know what I was going to do, how I was going to get home,” Lipps said.
Fargo police did not cover Angela’s expenses to get home after her release from jail. Local defense attorneys gave her money to pay for a hotel room and food on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.
This shit was barely one step up from a “starlight tour,” and only because she didn’t actually die of exposure.
It’s sadistic on top of being unjust. The cops need to [redacted].
I hope she sues and makes it hurt.
ACAB
No, cops jailed her!
AI can’t put handcuffs on a person.
It can’t even make a decision.
Stop deflecting the blame.ACAB
I’m appalled on how she was treated. I hope that throughout this whole ordeal she met kind people that treated here with decency and humanity.
Also, if that’s how the US treat its own citizens imagine how people being arrested by Trumps immigration police are being treated. Scary times.
What kind of fucking court would accept AI output as evidence, even for probable cause? Where has it ever been validated? What are the documented Type 1 and Type 2 error rates in independent peer-reviewed tests? Where is the output that gives the rationale for why it said there was a match? Because without that, there’s no more reason to believe it than a Magic 8-Ball.
And holy shit, she’s 50? That’s three miles of bad Tennesee road.
doesn’t sound like a court was even involved. per the article, she was held in jail 5 months before even being interviewed by police. that sounds entirely unconstitutional?? how does that even happen? like someone said below, i hope she is able to sue for millions. this is insane
The Constitution has never once showed up to save anyone. People show up to save the constitution. Or they don’t.
Or they don’t.
Welcome to the current presidency.
Well its possible because we have a constitutional right to a speedy and quick trial in the united states.
So, since it is a constitutional right they get to shit all over it and do whatever the fuck they want to us anyway.
According to the court documents, the Fargo detective working the case then looked at Lipps’ social media accounts and Tennessee driver’s license photo.
In his charging document, the detective wrote that Lipps appeared to be the suspect based on facial features, body type and hairstyle and color.
Seems like a possibility the detective could have conveniently “forgot” to mention that the initial identification was by AI.
And holy shit, she’s 50? That’s three miles of bad Tennesee road.
Alcohol can be rough on the body.
AI is shit.
Facial recognition is shit.
But none of that was really the issue here:
Lipps spent nearly four months in a Tennessee jail without bail - classified as a fugitive, she had no hearing, no interview, nothing. North Dakota officers didn’t retrieve her until October 30, 108 days after the arrest. October 31 was her first court appearance and the first time police spoke to her, reports InForum.
Arrested and thrown in jail for 108 days before seeing any sort of judge is a constitutional violation.
We hear about this because it’s an obvious wrong case to an old innocent grandma…
But it’s not the only time it’s happening. And if this happened to her, it can happen to anyone.
A lazy/dumb cop or ICE agent can just declare you’re someone they’re looking for, and by the time it’s settled your life is destroyed.
We can’t keep kicking police reform down the road.
We can’t settle for moderate politicians who say they’ll try on a few issues.
We need politicians who understand that everything is fucked and desperately needs fixed across the board.
Do politicians still have your faith?
This is like asking if you have faith in plumbers…
But no, I don’t have “faith” in anyone or anything.
That’s why I vote and advocate for others to do so, because lots of informed voters mitigates the threats from bad politicians.
Spoiler, it wasn’t AI but a detective and a failed system abdicating using any thought.
Why did it take 5 months to even interview her? What the fuck it’s happening in US jails.
To steal a comment:
[W]e’re seeing the first instances of what reality looks like with AI in the hands of the average bear. Just like the excuse was “but the computer said it was correct,” now we’re just shifting to “but the AI said it was correct.”
Don’t underestimate how much authority and thinking people will delegate to machines. Not to mention the lengths they’ll go to weasel out of taking responsibility for a screw up like this (saw another comment in this thread about the Chief of Police stepping down but it being framed as “retirement”).
Yeah the 5 months thing… That’s the difference between having a $400/hour lawyer and no lawyer. The first guy could get you out by 6:00 p.m. on bail. If you have no lawyer, your appointment to be assigned lawyer is scheduled for next month.
and a failed system abdicating using any thought
So the whole government at this point. Idiocracy was supposed to be funny fiction not depressing reality.
Why did it take 5 months to even interview her? What the fuck it’s happening in US jails.
Money and profits in that order.
For the umpteenth fucking time, what’s going on in the US today is not “Idiocracy!”
In Idiocracy, the people were stupid, but honest. This is not that. This is malicious, which is worse.
Give us a better correlation then.
I suddenly realize you may have thought I was criticizing you, individually. Just so you know, that’s not what I intended: I meant it as a general reaction to seeing that comparison made over and over again, and your instance of it just happened to be the one I attached it to.
Sorry about that.
That was what I read it as, no worries. I really can’t think of a better correlation like that movie though. The stupid people part is key.
Ah, I see how we differ now. I think the key isn’t just that they’re stupid, but more importantly that they’re incurious, mean-spirited, cowardly, and duped by propaganda. And that the leadership is malicious and corrupt, not merely incompetent. As such, I think just about every other dystopia is a better fit than Idiocracy is. 1984, Fahrenheit 451, Star Wars: Andor – take your pick!
Idiocracy is about what happens after the current time when smarter more level headed people are trying to put the pieces back together. We are in the prequel era, things are going to get worse before they get better.
What a bunch of incompetent pigs. I hope she sures for millions.
More money out of our pockets to cover for these useless fucks
This is the part that infuriates me. The cops that fucked up will face no repercussions. It’s the tax payers that will foot the bill for this obviously incoming lawsuit and settlement. The solution is clear. Make cops get the equivalent of doctor’s malpractice insurance. Then make the insurance companies pay the settlement. And when the cops insurance payments go up, the cop has to pay. Or stop being a cop because they suck at it. Problem solved.
Facial recognition software. Whether it’s AI or not is debatable.
What’s the other side of the debate? CNNs are excellent at facial recognition and they’ve been around for decades.
Debatable as in I cannot be 100% sure it’s not AI, despite being 99% sure
Wait… Did I misread you? What makes you 99% sure it’s not AI?
Well the article says both, and it never contradicts the title.
I’m not surprised the word AI isn’t used a lot because it doesn’t paint it in a positive light. If this was a successful arrest, you’d probably see it a thousand times per article
Archive It said she lost her home, job and dog. What a bunch of assholes.
That particular archive has a nasty habit of changing the content of saved articles, and then hijacking your browser to launch DDoS attacks on people the secretive owner of the archive doesn’t like.
Damn! Thanks for pointing this out.
In the course of discussing whether Archive.today should be deprecated because of the DDoS, Wikipedia editors discovered that the archive site altered snapshots of webpages to insert the name of the blogger who was targeted by the DDoS. The alterations were apparently fueled by a grudge against the blogger over a post that described how the Archive.today maintainer hid their identity behind several aliases.
It…what??
It’s bad enough that Wikipedia no longer allows linking to pages archived on there, and they’re actively working to replace any links already in use
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Archive.today_guidance
That’s crazy. I’m gonna have to find a self-hosted paywall hopper. 🙄
Keywords that you can put into your favorite search engine: archive.is ddos.
Do you have a source for this? I never ask for sources, but I’m making an exception for this.
Archive.today is also archive.is and archive.ph. There might be other mirrors i’m unaware of.
Edit: Actually the mirrors are listed on wikipedia. Here they are:
archive.today
archive.fo
archive.is
archive.li
archive.md
archive.ph
archive.vn
archiveiya74codqgiixo33q62qlrqtkgmcitqx5u2oeqnmn5bpcbiyd.onion
Lipps is back home in Tennessee
she lost her home, her car and even her dog
At least there’ll be a lot of very relatable music…
