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“Never feel bad about eating unhealthy things like cheesecake. Use the science of relativity. Cheesecake is healthier than crystal meth. Take another slice and be thankful.”

  • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    actually look at the calories. at some point a small amount of meth is equivalent to a large amount of cheesecake, have the meth and save those calories

  • LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    Y’all go ahead and become fat unsexy blobs, while I just continue avoiding cheesecake AND crystal meth.

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      10 hours ago

      You skinny bitch. It’s people like you who leave their leftovers in the fridge, causing all those kids in Africa to starve according to my personal sources.

      Also, call me.

    • Dozzi92@lemmy.world
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      9 hours ago

      Borrrriiinnnngggggg.

      You can absolutely indulge in unhealthy foods so long as you also indulge in healthy foods and exercise.

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        8 hours ago

        Why would I want to eat anything that makes me feel like shit then have to run three marathons to burn it off? Sounds like self-inflicted torture.

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          Because it’s delicious and life is about enjoying yourself. If you don’t get enjoyment from some cookies and milk, that is a-ok, but I know I do. And I ran for 92 minutes in Monday and the Garmin app tells me I burned 1225 calories. I think I can squeeze a piece of cheesecake and some milk in there, without the fear that I’m somehow degrading my quality of life when I’m older.

          Do you have no vices? Just curious. My brother is very health conscious, his culture is one that puts too much stock into how you look, IMO. But I say this because even he will have cheats from time to time. He’s making us apple pie ice cream for Thanksgiving, one with sugar and one with stevia. And we’ll go run together the next day.

          • LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world
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            4 hours ago

            Some people think those foods are delicious. For others like me it just gives me a tummy ache. Why would I do that to myself

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    15 hours ago

    I’m willing to bet you’d be healthier after 10 years of 10mg daily oral methamphetamine than 10 years of 1 slice daily cheesecake.

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      13 hours ago

      You can fit a slice of cheesecake into a healthy caloric budget and macro balance.

      If you’re eating your daily required calories and then adding cheesecake on top of that, you’ll be in caloric surplus and gain weight, but you certainly don’t have to do it that way.

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      14 hours ago

      The results are quite different from the perspective of body weight and mental health.

      You either become overweight with good mental health

      Or

      You maintain low or under weight gain and have a severe drug addiction that destroys your mental health.

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        13 hours ago

        Taking 10 mg of methamphetamine a day is smaller than an average clinical dosage of Adderall, with a similar risk profile.

        On a milligram per milligram basis, methamphetamine is weaker than dextroamphetamine, and 10mg is a very normal dose of d-amp.

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          13 hours ago

          Addiction is usually measured not by how much you can or can’t take … but how, when and if you can stop.

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            Are diabetics (which you’d probably become if you ate cheesecake daily) addicted to insulin then? Cause they definitely can’t stop using there drug.

            Addiction and dependence are two different things. Dependence means you have to take a drug otherwise you’ll suffer negative consequences, addiction means you keep taking a drug despite the negative consequences it’s causing. Dependence isn’t a problem in and of itself, it becomes a problem when it’s intertwined with addiction.

          • Wren@lemmy.today
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            That’s not addiction, otherwise I’m technically addicted to my painkillers, anti-psychotics and stimulants. As well as air, warmth and food.

            An addiction is when someone compulsively seeks out a pleasurable experience despite net negative consequences.

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              11 hours ago

              I agree but I’ve been surrounded by way too many examples in my life where these arguments and counter points don’t exactly work all the time. If you are a level headed person with a good background, education, self control and generally a good upbringing … then yes, someone on as much painkillers, stimulants and anti-psychotics as you say would be capable of managing all those medications in a responsible way.

              Unfortunately, the vast majority of the world is filled with mentally unstable or people whose lives are on the edge of being unstable. There are a lot of dysfunctional and unbalanced people out there.

              So when you give these arguments about drugs, they make sense to a very small segment of well balanced and moderately wealthy members of society … but when you apply this logic to the majority of society, these arguments just don’t make any sense.

              I’ve known several people that started out with pain killers and opioid medications for real medical issues … only to become helplessly addicted and it was their medications and addictions (that originated from taking those medications) that killed them rather than their initial condition.

              • Wren@lemmy.today
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                10 hours ago

                What argument? You mean the psychological definition of an addiction? That “argument?”

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            13 hours ago

            10mg is a clinical dose. Methamphetamine is a prescription drug.

            Discontinuing cold turkey from 10mg daily would not result in significant withdrawal symptoms.

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      13 hours ago

      After watching a mad scientist/chemistry youtuber NileRed trying to cook, I think that those skill sets are completely separate and may, in fact, be mutually exclusive to some degree.

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        12 hours ago

        I immediately thought of his chemically formulated chocolate chip cookies.