• Melllvar@startrek.website
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    9 months ago

    This popped up over the weekend on my work PC. It was an emergency and I absolutely needed to get to my desktop ASAP.

    Nope. Full screen advertisement for Windows 11 demanding my immediate and undivided attention. Blocking all other functions, commands, and inputs. I must interact with this ad or else I cannot use my computer.

    Fuck. That.

    I am never installing Windows 11. I am never buying another Microsoft operating system. Specifically because of this sort of heavy-handed dark patterned bullshit. Not to mention the fact that Windows 10 is dog shit.

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      9 months ago

      I paid full price for Windows 10 twice, from Microsoft’s website. I believe in paying for good software but Windows 10 was anything but. After the whole forced Microsoft account thing I had very little patience and then Windows 11 dropped. I switched to Linux and never looked back.

      I understand if anyone can’t switch or disagree with my point of view, you don’t have to leave a comment.

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        9 months ago

        What do you mean by forced Microsoft account? You can make local accounts out of the box in 10 and 11. It’s just annoying to get around.

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            9 months ago

            I agree, but I’m just pointing out that it’s possible to get around it. Microsoft fucking sucks, but I want people to know ways around stuff so they aren’t wasting time and money if they don’t have to.

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                9 months ago

                I’ve never worked with Linux and I get so drained from work, that I don’t even want to look at a computer when I get home. Idk if I have the energy to learn Linux lol.

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                  9 months ago

                  I switched to Linux in 2014 mostly because Win 8.1 happened to me.

                  Learning Linux MInt felt about like learning a new Windows version. Think about what it was like to cope with 7 if you’re used to XP, or 10 if you’re used to 7. It’s about like that. But on Linux, it doesn’t go through those dramatic pointless UI changes. Features get added, they sometimes change the default theme, but they don’t drastically change the workflow from one version to the next. If anything, the UI felt more familiar to me than Win 8.1 did. Coping with things like the new way file systems are handled can be a thing, but as I was already playing with Raspberry Pis and had learned how to type cd and ls in a terminal I was kind of okay with that.

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                  9 months ago

                  Install mint (cinnamon). Very easy to use for starting. Will make computers fun again. As for games. Most work fine but ymmv

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                    9 months ago

                    I’ll have to look into it once I get a Steamdeck. I won’t need to game on a computer at that point lol. What kind of specs should my computer have in order to run mint well? I know Jack shit about Linux other than the Arch btw jokes and the penguin mascot.

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              9 months ago

              Microsoft fucking sucks, but I want people to know ways around stuff so they aren’t wasting time and money if they don’t have to.

              What is the way around Microsoft accounts during 10/11 setup?

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                9 months ago

                10: put [email protected] as the email and whatever the fuck you want as a password. It’ll give you an error then let you proceed with local setup. That’s if it forces you to connect to the Internet. I prefer saying I don’t have Internet and choose the limited setup option.

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          9 months ago

          It’s just annoying to get around.

          This right here is exactly why I jumped ship. Linux questions tend to be “How do I do this?” and ya learn something.

          Microsoft questions tend to be: “Windows is trying to force some new commercially motivated shenanigans on me when I’m just trying to use the OS I already paid them for, how many clever steps must I take to work around their unending, ever-evolving nonsense… Until they pull something else with the next update?”

          The complete obfuscation of making local accounts and pushing M$ accounts was infuriating.

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      9 months ago

      I feel this in my bones. Can’t tell you the number of times I’ve been working on some late night or weekend work emergency when fucking Microsoft throws some random unnecessary bullshit in my path. Haven’t run into the Win 11 mandatory commercial yet. But MS is notorious for wasting our time with push notifications, Teams drama, mandatory updates, and slow ass software that glitches at the worst possible times.

      MS lost the way years ago. They forgot that software is supposed to work for us. They demand we work for their shitty software.

      “Just use Linux” indeed. Will be doing that in my retirement.

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        9 months ago

        Whenever that switch to linux comes, I recommend linux mint.

        Works out of the box, the community using it seems friendly and happy to help, and can be pretty easily configured to fit with windows habits.

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          9 months ago

          Thank you for the recommendation. I have dabbled but have a lot to learn. Looking forward to it.

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        9 months ago

        It seems like every other time I interact with teams I get a “ARE YOU AWARE OF THIS FEATURE” popup that I have to close before I can do whatever it was I was trying to do. It’s annoying as fuck. Then there’s outlook fucking up my view every time I open the calendar across all my work PCs.

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      9 months ago

      I feel you. I wish I wasn’t supporting 3500 windows endpoints but that’s the job. Refuse to use that shit at home though except for gaming. Luckily my home windows 10 has all that dumb shit slipstreamed out. I use a Mac or iPad for most other stuff.

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        9 months ago

        I work at an MSP and it has made me hate Windows with a passion. I don’t even want to look at my own computer when I get home. I do almost everything I need to at home on my phone (a pixel 7) and I game on my PS5, switch, and I will be getting a Steamdeck at some point soon.

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          9 months ago

          I adore my steam deck! I play it at home more than my gaming PC because I can be on the couch with my partner instead of another room. Luckily when I do game on my PC I never have to mess with windows, it’s just opening steam and picking something.

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            9 months ago

            I’m saving up for a fence for my yard and a new patio roof, because those take precedence over fun shit. After that I’m gonna get a steam deck. I wanted to get one with my Xmas bonus, but I had vet bills for my puppy and I was out of work for two months due to an injury.

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        9 months ago

        You can support a Windows domain and tons of endpoints from Linux. I know. My work PC runs Arch, btw.

        xfreerdp is much better than mstsc.exe

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          9 months ago

          Welcome to the real corporate world where we have teams of people and good luck trying to get your help desk to support Linux, they can’t even figure out Macs

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            9 months ago

            I doubt my helpdesk staff will support my PC. I manage the company including helpdesk PCs from my PC.

            It will probably be last PC working when the dummies in that department manage to get spearfished and all windows boxes are encrypted.
            There’s not a lot you can do against idiots with Domain Admin credentials other than off-site backups (on a non AD joined Linux PC of course).