Well, for one, they come with a fuckton of nerves that cause orgasms to feel mind blowing, much of which get destroyed by circumcision.
Two, if there’s a flap of skin attached to and covering a body part, and this flap appears on very nearly every single male ever, there’s likely a really good reason evolutionary biology brought it about. Other such examples that come to mind are finger- and toenails, skin, recessed eardrums, the ability to close one’s mouth, and eyelids.
Two, if there’s a flap of skin attached to and covering a body part, and this flap appears on very nearly every single male ever, there’s likely a really good reason evolutionary biology brought it about.
I’m not saying this in support of circumcision, but that’s not at all how evolutionary adaptation works. We are full of parts that are no longer useful and are infact sometimes downright more risky to have just because they aren’t likely to negatively impact our ability to procreate.
that’s not at all how evolutionary adaptation works. We are full of parts that are no longer useful and are infact sometimes downright more risky to have just because they aren’t likely to negatively impact our ability to procreate.
Do you plan to provide examples (other than the appendix and tonsils, that can be harmful to have if infected) of these useless organs we’re so full of? And why would I associate the foreskin, which has a clear protective use case, with these many, many other apparently useless/dangerous organs we’re chock full to the brim with?
If you’re going to make a claim about evolutionary adaptation works, you have the burden to back your claim with more than just vague proclamations.
You provided two great examples, the recurrent laryngeal nerve and vagus nerve as well as hiccups, eye colors, some anemias, like sickle-cell or iron deficiency are others. However, your misunderstanding about what evolutionary adaptation (or more accurately, natural selection) is doesn’t mean somebody else has to prove you wrong, just because you define something incorrectly.
And all I pointed out was that your description of evolution by natural selection was wrong, the natural selection process “doesn’t care” about the existence of things that don’t decrease reproductive fitness, so those features won’t be selected against. Things that may have been useful to an ancestor in a different body configuration but not us, may continue to exist, but that’s not an argument for its continued usefulness. So saying the fact a foreskin still exists therefore it must be useful isn’t supported by the way genetic evolution by natural selection works.
In fact, hiccups are a really good comparison. I’d say everyone has had or will have hiccups at least once in their normal lifespan. For some people they may even get stuck with them for an extended time to the point one seeks medical intervention.
But they are adaptation from an amphibian ancestor of ours that needed them to be able to transition from breathing in water to breathing on land. We don’t benefit from them anymore, but they don’t negatively impact reproductive fitness so they stick around. (See: Your Inner Fish by Neil Shubin)
(don’t fall for it, guys, he’s done this before… He posts a comment about his dick, downvotes it himself, and then offers photographic proof to all passersby)
Well, for one, they come with a fuckton of nerves that cause orgasms to feel mind blowing, much of which get destroyed by circumcision.
Two, if there’s a flap of skin attached to and covering a body part, and this flap appears on very nearly every single male ever, there’s likely a really good reason evolutionary biology brought it about. Other such examples that come to mind are finger- and toenails, skin, recessed eardrums, the ability to close one’s mouth, and eyelids.
I’m not saying this in support of circumcision, but that’s not at all how evolutionary adaptation works. We are full of parts that are no longer useful and are infact sometimes downright more risky to have just because they aren’t likely to negatively impact our ability to procreate.
Do you plan to provide examples (other than the appendix and tonsils, that can be harmful to have if infected) of these useless organs we’re so full of? And why would I associate the foreskin, which has a clear protective use case, with these many, many other apparently useless/dangerous organs we’re chock full to the brim with?
If you’re going to make a claim about evolutionary adaptation works, you have the burden to back your claim with more than just vague proclamations.
You provided two great examples, the recurrent laryngeal nerve and vagus nerve as well as hiccups, eye colors, some anemias, like sickle-cell or iron deficiency are others. However, your misunderstanding about what evolutionary adaptation (or more accurately, natural selection) is doesn’t mean somebody else has to prove you wrong, just because you define something incorrectly.
And all I pointed out was that your description of evolution by natural selection was wrong, the natural selection process “doesn’t care” about the existence of things that don’t decrease reproductive fitness, so those features won’t be selected against. Things that may have been useful to an ancestor in a different body configuration but not us, may continue to exist, but that’s not an argument for its continued usefulness. So saying the fact a foreskin still exists therefore it must be useful isn’t supported by the way genetic evolution by natural selection works.
Sources aren’t even hard to find:
Don’t think they expected a reply like this lol… Evolution is fucking awesome
In fact, hiccups are a really good comparison. I’d say everyone has had or will have hiccups at least once in their normal lifespan. For some people they may even get stuck with them for an extended time to the point one seeks medical intervention.
But they are adaptation from an amphibian ancestor of ours that needed them to be able to transition from breathing in water to breathing on land. We don’t benefit from them anymore, but they don’t negatively impact reproductive fitness so they stick around. (See: Your Inner Fish by Neil Shubin)
I don’t know that everyone can shut their mouths ;)
Oh, I know this for a fact: got a half-sibling never stfu.
God fucking dammit.
Is something the matter?
I’m circumcised.
Oh. Well, yeah. God fucking dammit, indeed. I’m sorry to hear that.
Who downvoted? You doubt me? You want a god damn picture as evidence lmao?
(don’t fall for it, guys, he’s done this before… He posts a comment about his dick, downvotes it himself, and then offers photographic proof to all passersby)
Shit, you caught me.
TIL I can’t feel orgasms
Even animals that don’t have one usually have an equivalent part, suggesting it’s a very old evolutionary adaptation