Yea… my super maga dad is all passed off about data centers. Don’t think it would get him to vote dem, but it did sway his primary vote towards an anti DC candidate.
It’s a majority hate line, regardless of party. There’s always that one voice arguing for in any feed, but with bots out on patrol that is expected.
I thought yall guys over there are all proud of how the US is the epicenter of the whole internet. Hmmm, I wonder, where said internet is hosted.
we aint all that happy with them down south neither
More copium for the masses. No one is leaving MAGA. Anyone smart enough to do this would have done it back when he was found to have raped children. The rest are bought and paid for simps.
It’s not the data centers that people hate, it’s the total, absolute lack of care of human well being that can only come from conservative leadership implementing said data center, the software, the laws, the AI, the jobs, the taxes, the society, etc.
Oh wait, this isn’t actually about datacenters at all, it’s because Republicans are fucking awful human beings and awful at everything, and are ruining everything.
Wow! 🌈 🔔 🎉
that is why all these massive AI datancenters are mostly in republican/rural areas, they know there will be little to no pushback from the gop controlled states, or the people living there. republicans in general do not protests en masse, they may vote this one time against them.
Decades of leftist organizing couldn’t do it. One server farm drinking the town aquifer to make AI slop did it in a year.
As they say in labor organizing, the boss is the best organizer
Rural American voters weren’t actually the conservative base they are today until relatively recently, at least not in all the same ways we see them today. Through the first half of the 20th century rural mine workers and even agriculturalists all over were part of progressive movements of their time.
It’s funny I see this interviews etc… and I’m still not convinced
the dumbest rural 24/7 fox news watching, over 50 year old, truck driving, mozzarella stick and ice cream treat eating, “Applebee’s, redlobster and olive garden are fancy eatin” Hogs will ever vote in a democrat
Like if Kansas, Iowa, or Nebraska flips blue
if Mississippi flips blue I’ll go to church
Best you can hope for with people that deep in the red mindset is to discourage them from voting. They can’t bring themselves to vote for a “Dumbocrat”, but if they hate their own party’s option enough, they won’t vote for them either, just stay home in miserable despair.
That’s what we have to hope for.
Nothing will push them to vote Dem.
They may vote for an independent candidate or not vote at all, but they will not vote Dem, regardless of how many Dem policies align with their own.
No they will. Flipping between D and R is part of the strategy to keep us trapped
That defeatism is exactly what the fascists want.
Just because many of the MAGA are beyond redemption, people still need to VOTE! A lot of the reason we have trump 2.0 is because 66% of voters didn’t vote.
Is it really defeatism, though? Simply not voting at all could turn tides. And it’s not like Republicans haven’t proven them right again and again and again and again. Republicans are conditioned HARD to never, ever consider voting for a Democrat.
I think it is considering the assertion was they’re never going to change… On an article about them changing.
It’s not saying that Republicans are voting Democrat, though. It’s just saying there’s a surge in votes for Democrats in rural areas that are traditionally conservative. That could mean that Republicans are voting for Democrats, but past evidence suggests it’s far more likely to just be latent Democrats actually bothering to go out and vote in areas where they’d traditionally get drowned out.
Wouldn’t them voting for an independent candidate still mean they’re not voting for a republican? Wouldn’t that still be a net plus?
100%
Depends. Data centers are a bipartisan issue. Don’t believe the bot feeds that try to play it off as otherwise.
Obama won in 2012. Trump won in 2016. Then a bunch of his voters switched and Biden won in 2020. And then a bunch of his voters switched to Trump in 2024.
It seems inarguable that a critical number of voters are absolutely capable of changing their minds.
What you’re missing is that not the same amount of people voted in all of those elections. 2012 and 2020 had high voter participation, 2016 and 2024 did not. Trump got fewer votes in 2016 than Romney did in 2012. If everyone who voted for Obama in 2012 had also voted for Clinton, Trump never would have won.
Same thing with ‘24, if everyone who voted for Biden in ‘20 had voted for Harris in ‘24, we never would’ve had Trump 2. This is why I think Trump isn’t very popular, he just wins by default when the Dems run a bad campaign or have an uninspiring candidate (side note, I totally think America is ready for a woman president, just not Clinton or Harris specifically)
Nailed it. I’ve seen posts on local social media literally descring what you just said. They won’t vote D no matter what, but they wont vote R this election either so they are staying home.
independants are really just aligned with the gop, as spoilers.
No they aren’t. I live in a rural area and independents are basically moderate Democrats without the branding. It’s the only way to win local elections without being in the GOP. And they do win elections pretty regularly
Some of them actually will. Not everyone who dumbly voted for Trump is a hardcore magat, it just looks that way on social media
I live in maga central and I do know people who’ve changed over to voting for Dems.
There’s really no need for this level of cynicism. I understand why you feel this way but it doesn’t help anything.
Ms. Whitmer you killed you’re career over buildings
I’ll believe it when I see it.
Nah, pedonald is still at 36%, nothing will change that.
Just wait until they hear about what billionaires are doing to their children.
I’m not convinced that MAGAs would actually see a problem with that…
What they took away from that seems to be they were right about pizza gate in some way. I wish I was kidding
Conservative rural voters don’t detest datacenters, they detest density, traffic, noise, etc. they assume datacenters will bring. This same “not in my backyard”-ism defeats other things that would be environmentally good, but sometimes folksy ignorance happens by chance to do the right thing.
I don’t really believe this. Yes, a lot hate data centers but they blame dems.
They blame dems, but it seems like they see the less mainstream democrats that are pushing away from the corporate dems as more promising, like there have been a handful of former Trump voters who said they liked Mamdani because he’s doing something different and trying to make things more affordable for average people.
Some Republican operatives called a bunch of voters who flipped from Trump to Mamdani and asked why? And some of them said Mamdani was conservative. The operatives were like no he’s not he’s socialist, to which they said Mamdani was talking about things being affordable, which is a conservative position. These people really are fucking stupid as shit.
It’s too bad that Democrats are also pro data center.
Yes. But it is important to note that ACTUAL Democrats and left wing candidates in local elections are not the same as the corporate neoliberals
How in the ever loving fuck do you figure that? Democrats are a neoliberal party from the top down. The only places they allow leftists to actually run are places they’d win as a third party anyway. Democrats exist to stop the left just as much as Republicans.
Uh, no they aren’t because they have democratic socialists and social Democrats? What do you mean?
You think Bernie, AOC, Tallarico, Ilhan Omar, etc are all neoliberals?
Please don’t, we already have to fight all of these blue magas without takes like this.
I know that the corporate Democrats (neoliberals) are funding maga against the left. That’s my issue with them. But the party does have good people in it although they are not in control at all right now
Yes, Talarico is a neoliberal. He literally just reversed his stance on trans athletes. https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/james-talarico-walks-back-stance-145115175.html
Yes. That’s what I was referring to. They seem to be reasonable neoliberals that are not pushing away the left and actively attack MAGA. They should get kudos for that.
*Note that it sounds like his decision on the trans athlete thing was what I was praising but I’m talking about his focus on the working class and holding maga feet to the fire
reasonable neoliberals
I just… What…
You don’t agree that Ossof and Tallarico are reasonable? There are some over there that are attempting to read the room. Even Obama endorsed Al-Sayad.
You can see the hate I get for pointing out the problems with the Dems but I will still give credit where it is due. But the party leadership and committees are completely captured
Is your definition of neoliberal “anyone who doesn’t agree with me on 100% of issues?”
If not, can you give examples of issues that someone could disagree with you on which would not get them branded as a “neoliberal”?
The problems with the data centers are not the data centers. It’s the missing environmental regulations. Democrats have some ideas about that.
Incorrect, but nice try. The problem with the AI society destruction machines is the fact that they are AI society destruction machines.
As we’ve seen with the Trump administration, environmental regulations can be rolled back at any time. Better to oppose them at every step than allow the oligarchs to sneak them in with false promises.
I’ll believe it when Trump is hanging from a lamppost. Until then, these headlines are disinformation and should be disregarded.
that poor lamppost… what did it do to you for you to punish it that badly?
i know. we’ll never get the stink out
