• Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.world
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    6 天前

    Conservative rural voters don’t detest datacenters, they detest density, traffic, noise, etc. they assume datacenters will bring. This same “not in my backyard”-ism defeats other things that would be environmentally good, but sometimes folksy ignorance happens by chance to do the right thing.

    • redballooon@lemmy.world
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      6 天前

      The problems with the data centers are not the data centers. It’s the missing environmental regulations. Democrats have some ideas about that.

      • FlyingCircus@lemmy.world
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        5 天前

        As we’ve seen with the Trump administration, environmental regulations can be rolled back at any time. Better to oppose them at every step than allow the oligarchs to sneak them in with false promises.

      • LemmySuxNow@reddthat.com
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        5 天前

        Incorrect, but nice try. The problem with the AI society destruction machines is the fact that they are AI society destruction machines.

    • Yuccagnocchiyaki@lemmy.world
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      6 天前

      Yes. But it is important to note that ACTUAL Democrats and left wing candidates in local elections are not the same as the corporate neoliberals

      • LemmySuxNow@reddthat.com
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        5 天前

        How in the ever loving fuck do you figure that? Democrats are a neoliberal party from the top down. The only places they allow leftists to actually run are places they’d win as a third party anyway. Democrats exist to stop the left just as much as Republicans.

        • Yuccagnocchiyaki@lemmy.world
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          5 天前

          Uh, no they aren’t because they have democratic socialists and social Democrats? What do you mean?

          You think Bernie, AOC, Tallarico, Ilhan Omar, etc are all neoliberals?

          Please don’t, we already have to fight all of these blue magas without takes like this.

          I know that the corporate Democrats (neoliberals) are funding maga against the left. That’s my issue with them. But the party does have good people in it although they are not in control at all right now

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              5 天前

              Is your definition of neoliberal “anyone who doesn’t agree with me on 100% of issues?”

              If not, can you give examples of issues that someone could disagree with you on which would not get them branded as a “neoliberal”?

            • Yuccagnocchiyaki@lemmy.world
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              5 天前

              Yes. That’s what I was referring to. They seem to be reasonable neoliberals that are not pushing away the left and actively attack MAGA. They should get kudos for that.

              *Note that it sounds like his decision on the trans athlete thing was what I was praising but I’m talking about his focus on the working class and holding maga feet to the fire

                • Yuccagnocchiyaki@lemmy.world
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                  5 天前

                  You don’t agree that Ossof and Tallarico are reasonable? There are some over there that are attempting to read the room. Even Obama endorsed Al-Sayad.

                  You can see the hate I get for pointing out the problems with the Dems but I will still give credit where it is due. But the party leadership and committees are completely captured

  • OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world
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    6 天前

    There’s a travel Youtuber I used to watch who goes around to places in the US to “just ask questions” to the locals. (read: looks for conservative opinions)

    He has a couple of videos where he goes to natural disaster affected areas. The locals said in the Trump years the government provided more support than the Biden administration. I’m finding that kind of hard to believe considering the news stories seem to say the opposite.

    Polls might go one way or the other on certain issues, but the GOP has done a good job of psychologically priming their base to reflexively default voting for them in the end.

    • FlyingCircus@lemmy.world
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      5 天前

      Especially when there is a fascist government in charge that wants to murder all opposition. Like, hell no am I going to tell a random phone number how I’m going to vote.

  • lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world
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    6 天前

    I’ll believe it when Trump is hanging from a lamppost. Until then, these headlines are disinformation and should be disregarded.

  • Kurtismayfield@lemmy.zip
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    6 天前

    Never going to happen.

    Watching all the farmers on TikTok blame "Washington " for their current trade woes have taught me that they will not do one thing to change their political “views”. They will never vote for the market liberals.

  • RabbitBBQ@lemmy.world
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    7 天前

    Strong guarantee that the data center issue is not enough to get conservatives voting for any democrat no matter how much they talk about jesus or whatever

  • Goldholz @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    7 天前

    It is seriousely beyond me that for so many people it first has to hurt them before they react. Instead of thinking long term based and not short term emotional and egotistical

    • Stolas@lemmy.ca
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      7 天前

      I’ve witnessed so much of it at this point that I’ve come to accept it.

      It still hurts to watch though. Nothing you do will convince them until they hurt just like the rest of us. Even if you tell them that it will hurt them eventually, even if you beg and plead for their own safety, until they feel that pain they won’t care.

    • adarza@lemmy.ca
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      7 天前

      they got their abortion ‘win’, guns aren’t being ‘taken away’, dipshit is doing a bang-up job hating the ‘correct people’ and shredding social services, and the climate change hoax is sufficiently contained (it is not, but these are science deniers)…

      so i guess there’s no single issue left that’s calling them… so ‘data centers’ it is.

  • banana69696969@lemmy.world
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    7 天前

    Decades of leftist organizing couldn’t do it. One server farm drinking the town aquifer to make AI slop did it in a year.

    • Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.world
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      6 天前

      Rural American voters weren’t actually the conservative base they are today until relatively recently, at least not in all the same ways we see them today. Through the first half of the 20th century rural mine workers and even agriculturalists all over were part of progressive movements of their time.

  • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    7 天前

    It’s not the data centers that people hate, it’s the total, absolute lack of care of human well being that can only come from conservative leadership implementing said data center, the software, the laws, the AI, the jobs, the taxes, the society, etc.

    Oh wait, this isn’t actually about datacenters at all, it’s because Republicans are fucking awful human beings and awful at everything, and are ruining everything.

    Wow! 🌈 🔔 🎉

    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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      7 天前

      that is why all these massive AI datancenters are mostly in republican/rural areas, they know there will be little to no pushback from the gop controlled states, or the people living there. republicans in general do not protests en masse, they may vote this one time against them.

  • Mastengwe@sh.itjust.works
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    7 天前

    More copium for the masses. No one is leaving MAGA. Anyone smart enough to do this would have done it back when he was found to have raped children. The rest are bought and paid for simps.

  • Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world
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    7 天前

    It’s funny I see this interviews etc… and I’m still not convinced

    the dumbest rural 24/7 fox news watching, over 50 year old, truck driving, mozzarella stick and ice cream treat eating, “Applebee’s, redlobster and olive garden are fancy eatin” Hogs will ever vote in a democrat

    Like if Kansas, Iowa, or Nebraska flips blue

    if Mississippi flips blue I’ll go to church

    • Sundray@lemmus.org
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      7 天前

      Best you can hope for with people that deep in the red mindset is to discourage them from voting. They can’t bring themselves to vote for a “Dumbocrat”, but if they hate their own party’s option enough, they won’t vote for them either, just stay home in miserable despair.

      That’s what we have to hope for.