• nanometer1625@thelemmy.club
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    9 days ago

    Meh. Companies will always operate in their own interest. What matters is to constrain their behavior with legislation, like California’s Cap and Invest program.

  • jaykrown@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    No doubt, they’re evil scum. Ruining our future for the sake of short term power control.

    • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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      10 days ago

      That’s what’s on the table now, but it doesn’t look good.

      The Supremely Court is about to rule, essentially, on whether states can even attempt to sue the oil companies over the states’ climate-change-related expenses.

      The danger for the oil companies right now isn’t final Judgement from those lawsuits, but the discovery process. If the states are allowed to proceed, the oil companies have to turn over records, which will then become public. It’s not only damning socially, but they’ll also show that they lied to their investors, and THAT would trigger a mountain of lawsuits that could do real damage.

      But with the current Court, I’m not hopeful.

    • HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org
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      10 days ago

      You are right with your assessment.

      I’d guess it might take one generation until the trials begin. But It might be less depending on how rapidly the climate disaster unfolds. And there will probably a transition period where different institutions, governed by different interests, will be literally at war with each other. Look what happens to the car industry.

  • KulunkelBoom@lemmus.org
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    11 days ago

    Oh please… did you believe the American Tobacco Company when it said cigarettes are actually good for you? How about the liquor cartels telling you drinking makes you irresistible to the opposite sex, or maybe how manly or babely you look with a couple carats of diamond embedded in some gold hanging off your body like a gypsy carries her coins.

    Did you believe that shit? Nah…

    • whalesnrainbows@lemmy.world
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      10 days ago

      Almost everyone in the family and community in which I was raised believes that human-caused climate change is not real. They believe that all climate change is a wholly unavoidable phenomenon that is just part of the earth’s natural cycle.

      You can imply that no one has actually been fooled by the oil industry’s propaganda all you want, but it’s both incorrect & unproductive to do so.

    • adjectivenoun@lemmy.worldOP
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      11 days ago

      Yeah, yeah. I know. It’s just interesting to see yet more evidence they were lying as dishonestly as the tobacco industry. I think this article presents a pretty cohesive timeline of those lies: what they knew and when they knew it.

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        10 days ago

        And hired the same PR people who did the tobacco misinformation to do theirs.

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        10 days ago

        Yeah this was pretty bad. Using the slur is quite understandable because the fact that it is a slur isn’t super widely known in my experience, especially among those who haven’t had much experience with Romani people.

        But adding in such an explicitly racist caricature is so much harder to justify as an act of ignorance.

  • FauxLiving@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    What’s the penalty for intentionally misleading the world and severely damaging the climate?

    What is the cost of lies