But seriously what kind of predatory policy is that in the first place?
I’m confused by 24 hour self exclusion, followed by 90 day self exclusion. So 91 day self exclusion? Why not just say that?
no incentive to make it easier or less complicated I suppose
What even is “self-exclusion”. Are you supposed to not log in for 91 days? Not sure what they’re saying here.
I believe that “self exclusion” is a feature where you tell the gambling company you don’t want them to do business with you for the specified period. Then they won’t do business with you during the period, even if you try to come back to them later.
In some jurisdictions this kind of voluntary blacklist can also be done at the gambling regulator, in which case it would apply to all gambling establishments in the jurisdiction.
By the sound of it, it’s them saying if you want your account permanently closed, you have to voluntarily not use it for 91 days, basically giving you a chance to let addiction suck you back in, and thereby preventing people from immediately closing their accounts when they have a moment of clarity or big loss.
Otherwise a lot of people would immediately nuke their accounts when they have a really bad losing streak, and that would be real bad for business.
I thought it meant you had to opt-in to be blocked for 24 hours, after which you could opt-in to be blocked for 90 days, making it take more manual steps
That’s probably it, that would also explain why it’s two seperate exclusion periods.
So marginally less predatory than letting you keep access to your account and requiring you to not use it for 91 days just through willpower. Only marginally though
This predatory nature is going into my thesis on how gacha gaming led to the downfall of online porn
go on…
Can you give us a tease?
Spend $5 now to get 10 spins on the lucky wheel, and you just might win a tease!
I’m uncovering my calves… Ooo hot, right?
That’s genius
Another trick is to change your state to California, which has a click to cancel law.
The FTC made C2C a requirement nationwide for the US but Trump undid that in 2025.
That policy is likely illegal.
But the same can be said about gambling platforms.
be this site
advertise to kids using discord servers
if they win from gambling, ban them bc they’re underage
if they lose, it’s their loss anyway
double your profits with a simple trick
My nephew fell for this trick. He’s not a child, but he was gambling online on a European site as an American. He won big, tried to withdraw, they asked for a European passport. RIP his entire account.
For any finincial anything always do a round trip with a $10 too see if it’s possible.
He was putting in thousands, about $5,000 USD. They were letting him withdraw a few hundred here and there. Then he won something like $10k that’s when they did a Know Your Customer check. Which he failed, obviously. They kept his principal and his winnings, lol.
Hopefully he took it as a lesson. Not much else he can do. They said on their terms of service Americans were explicitly forbidden. Not much recourse.
That’s not a trick, that’s a legal requirement. They have to do KYC on a few grand and AML once it gets bigger. I had to go through this with Wise when I received a life insurance payout from another continent and I had to phone customer support to get it cleared.
I’m not saying it was illegal or anything, just that they probably make a lot of money turning on the KYC after big wins. They’ll never do one to a losing customer.
I’m that sense, I do believe it’s a bit tricky.
Hmm…
I’d wager KYC applies either way (anyone placing a bet should be known, not just who ends up winning) and not paying out wins is a clear breach of contract.
So very clearly doubly illegal. First they let any rando gamble, and then they don’t pay out wins.
I’ve heard of scammers paying out small amounts deliberately to reel in more money so this still doesn’t guarantee it’s real.
So the trick is to find a bunch of scammers to try this on
Even legitimate gambling websites do this, I was able to cash out £150 fine but a few weeks later when I tried to cash out at £700 I had to supply id. I was still able to deposit more money from the same card though, supplied my id, cashed it all out, told them to delete all of my details and account and never looked back
Legal requirements, KYC doesn’t kick in from 0, but it does after a few hundred or thousand
But surely it would stop me from giving them money aswell as taking it? If it was actually a safeguard
Yup, this has been going on since the very early days of online casinos. A buddy of mine get screwed out of a few thousand playing one of those Caribbean poker sites because the Caribbean “bank” which handles the deposits didn’t participate in the US banking system, and he’d checked a box which certified that he was a citizen of St Lucia or something. Whoops.
Hilarious way to terminate an account very quick.
Also shows that the chatbot is AI and they’re also using automation for accounts administration.
It is identified as a bot
So you have to abstain for 91 days to be able to close your account??? Fucking slime
I think it might be 114+. People with compulsion/addiction issues aren’t allowed to leave.
As an European, the “you can’t close your account too fast, this process is mandatory” thing would be a one way to a trial.
And not a trial vs consumer, you’d be sued to oblivion by consumer protection agency.
It’s almost certainly illegal in the Us too
meaningless
Not sure if you’re aware of this, but companies break laws in the EU too.
That policy is likely illegal in the US & it certainly is extremely uncommon. I’ve never heard of it. This post isn’t an EU vs US thing which they were trying to make it.
That’s the meaning.
Canada too, but it’s a different level down there. Admittedly I don’t have a deep knowledge on these laws and across European nations, but despite all corruption I live through I still see how it can be much worse.
You Europeans and your consumer protection laws… I love getting ripped off and taken advantage of by companies!
Ahem, it’s your freedom to be ripped off!
I wonder how MAGA would frame this? “Unlike in Socialist Europe, our successful companies are free from the oppressive, anti-business protection racket their citizens have to deal with”
I remember a few people complaining about being permanently banned from online games for lying in the in-game chat about being very young.
But seriously what kind of predatory policy is that in the first place?
It’s a gambling site.
Gambling is inherently predatory. It’s addictive. Gambling sites prey on this addiction. They’re not gonna let you go so easily. The wait period is to see if you’re really one of their best customers, unable to go cold-turkey.
But it’s so obviously flagrantly predatory… I really thought this would be too far, like legally.
Have you seen who’s making the laws?
I remember a time when Gambling was poison to professional sports. I’m not talking about office fantasy teams, or small bets between friends. I’m talking capital G Gambling. Professional Gambling run by businesses and gaming commissions. Professional sports tried very hard to distance themselves from gambling, so much so that Vegas didn’t have professional sports teams. Now there’s a ribbon on the screen showing Gambling stats the whole game. It’s ridiculous.
Now I know we can’t put the genie back into the bottle. Gambling apps are here and they’re not going anywhere. We can stop the ubiquitous ads. We’ve done this before with cigarettes. It wouldn’t be hard. Take down the ads, stop showing betting lines during the game, remove any mention of it. Cause right now it really looks like professional sports and gambling are joined at the hip and before too long American professional sports will be more about gambling than the game. Which lets face it, professional sports are about being a profitable business first and a sports team second. We’ve just completely forgotten about the game to make another quick buck.
To be honest, anything at all that ruins professional sports is fine in my book.
Cause right now it really looks like professional sports and gambling are joined at the hip and before too long American professional sports will be more about gambling than the game.
i thought that already happened in the NBA and NFL. MLB, maybe. Pete Rose and Michael Jordan come to mind.
Yeah, not to be pithy but the first step is admitting there’s a problem. That’s where we’re at now (or trying to get to).
It’s so weird to me that sports/gambling have become so conflated. Clearly a lot of money has been thrown at the businesses running professional sports to land us here.
Cigarettes is a perfect analogy. It’s not even an extreme comparison, both are undeniably a net harm to people, but are somehow normalized.
It really is. Tons of people still smoke. Some people chain smoke so much that it’ll kill them before they’re 50. We try to convince them stop smoking but if they want to smoke 5 packs a day we won’t stop them. We don’t advertise cigarettes. I mean they’re cigarettes, they advertise themselves. So does gambling. The apps aren’t advertising gambling, they’re advertising their app against the other gambling apps. Gambling sells itself just fine.
Best thing I heard all day is this 😁
Fuck is a cooldown period?
To let their addiction drag them back in.
That’s the perfect reply.
Bingo
Bango bongo bish bash bosh
Bingo bango bongo, I don’t want to leave the Congo
