Snakes freak me out. I take spider bro.
Appreciate the discussion, but I just need to say it:
This router looks like the cybertruck, in every way.
Why the fuck do they join the cables that need to go separated into the connector? Setting these up is a pain in the ass.
The “twisted pair” part of it makes it work like coax at the frequencies it uses unless you bend it too much.
I don’t understand. Who thinks these are comparable?
They serve very different purposes.
Whaaaat? No waaayy. Jokes on da internet?
Aren’t jokes meant to be funny?
Wifi? You may as well believe in magic. Buy a box of cable and one of these!
No testers - raw dog it. Party like a Quake party in 1999.
And now I will sing a traditional song of my people.
🟧⬜,🟧,🟩⬜,🟦,🟦⬜,🟩,🟫⬜,🟫.
My brain was like that’s to many wires… Until I finally was like oh orange white … One wire lol. Them everything fell into place.
A or B, can’t be bothered to look it up
B
OK so I just learned, like, last week that there are two standards. Why are there two standards? WTF?
(The context is I was turning an Ethernet cable into an EtherCAT cable, which is a stupid industrial standard where you only wire up pins 1, 2, 3, and 6, and then charge the end user 200 times more for the cable.)
There are two standards as it allows one to make a crossover cable. (Do B on one side and A on the other)
I also find crossover cables completely useless and refuse to own one less it gets mixed into the pile. Everyone has a router/switch, which negates the need completely.
Back at the beginning of
timesethernet, you needed the crossover cables to connect routers to routers, switches to switches or end devices to end devices. They wouldn’t work with the straight cables.The standard still needs those cables to be crossover, but nowadays the port itself can detect what type of cable you connected, what type of cable it needs, and rewire itself to accept whatever you throw at it.
The same thing happens when you directly connect 2 PCs together without a switch in the middle. But the ports also adapt themselves and work it out.
You could also use a crossover cable, and your devices would figure it out too.
Wasn’t there a second configuration too?
Crossover, but it isn’t needed anymore since most modern devices can detect what they are connected to and adjust.
Well there was A and B and it’s been long enough since I made any cable, I don’t remember which one everyone uses and which one only weirdos use.
T568B is the one everyone uses while T568A is the odd one.
I don’t get what’s particularly bad about T568A though? I was told it’s just plain worse than T568B for anything faster than gigabit and I swear I never saw any store bought cables using it.
The configuration has absolutely no bearing on performance. It is purely for standardization. Straight through cables work with either because it’s literally just connecting the copper on either end. The difference between A and B is just flipping 2 pairs around although I forget which. Only 4 or 5 cables of 8 are even used to this day which is crazy.
There are 4 pairs of 2 wires, for 8 overall. They are all used, but the pairs are redundant. From what I understand, when you send a positive pulse on, say, the solid blue wire, you also send a negative pulse on the stripy blue and white wire. The twisted pairs should counteract any interference, but if it doesn’t, the arrival of the bumps with opposite polarity should foolproof things a little.
Oh yeah it’s called differential signalling.
I think it’s something to do with the crosstalk between strands.
https://youtube.com/shorts/EsoLNh9POhE
The rest of the channel is pretty funny too
What is one of these called?
It’s called a crimp tool or a crimper.
Thank you! The name totally escaped me haha
Had one. Somebody stole it at a lan, many years ago. Haven’t bought another one, since, because I’m dumb.
If I have a PhD in WiFi, does that make me a wizard?
It makes you almost qualified to answer why the damn printer won’t work.
Come on now… Not even god can answer that one.
Someone should consider asking an AI to fix a series of platters, it’ll probably just shut itself down.
Why doesn’t it work? Because it’s fucked… That’s why
I bought a cheap tool years ago and a few hundred feet of cat6 and some connectors and wall plates
ran my main AP off my own crimped cords for years without issue. speed tests always showed full speed
Snake boy is better until the clip breaks off
thanks for reminding, I need an external antenna in my basement…
Wireless data links should be the exclusive domain of temporary, nomadic and/or sacrificial links.
If the channel is permanent, static, or critical; as much of the path as practicable should be provisioned with constrained energy transmission.
$350? Since when? My piece of shit was north of $750
That thing better have SO many spikes for that price.
It’s pretty great but yeah, that’s a lot
My router:
Wtf did you buy? You could have gotten a wired router with a couple of access points for that.
Tp-link 🤷
I have a TP-Link router (with the wifi shut off) and three TP-Link PoE access points, and I still paid much less than that for the entire setup including cable to wire my house.
TP-Link is supposed to be the cheap alternative, FFS!
i love cables, cables are the best thing, give me snakey boy, give me wired headphones, give me wired keyboard and mice
The snaky boy is more than $3 these days, at least if you get a long one.
Also for just cheap cat5, it might not actually faster than modern WiFi.
cat5 beats wifi in terms of wall penetration though, assuming you penetrated that wall with a drill and then pulled the cat5 through
Say “penetrate” again, I’m almost finished.
Come on, dont blow a just couple comments out of proportion. Why put so much load on some common terminology.
Buy them in spools.
Cat 6 is what, $0.15 a foot? Plus maybe another $0.50 for the connectors and boots? That’s a 16 foot snake for $3.00.
I think last time I bought one it was a 50 foot one for something like $15-$20.
People are mentioning buying from a spool but I am thinking more going to my local computer store,so there’s a some markup.
Btw, dafaq with router prices? Do they think they sell laptops?
Still a computer. And quite integral one. If it doesn’t work, your internet and all devices that connects to it won’t work. This is a device that has to work 24/7 and produce 0 issues at any time ad long ad it works. Higher end ones also have quite a bunch of useful settings and customization options. A normie might not need them, but a power user would appreciate these settings and how reliable this router is.
But for 750 that is overkill.
Their prices have doubled the last decade. I mean relax guys, you sell routers…
They are computers, more or less. Very specific and controlled computers, with only exactly what they need to do their job. Mostly anyways.
Because the stupid administration put bullshit arbitrary rules on routers the remaining ones are in short supply.
Nah here in Europe its the same shit. A 100-120€ router a few years ago might cost 200€ today. Top tiers are also doubled in price.
Compounded that 2.5gb is the norm now with wifi7. Consumer routers with 2.5 were inflated to being with last I checked and I have no idea what they cost now.
Have you seen current laptop prices? It’s wack.
If you want to come to my house and run cable feel free.
Is that a euphemism?
I’m open to both interpretations!
What’s the difference between jam or jelly you ask? You can’t jelly that cabling in there … Wait a second. This joke doesn’t work either way
Aww, not quite big enough to lay pipe? :3
Missed opportunity to call it a “$350 e-waste spider”
Not just any speder either, an australian one!
E-waste spyware spider
spyder
I’ve grown to hate these routers. They only seem useful if you live in an apartment and place them in the middle and your walls are made of paper. Bought a few through the years thinking more money = better wifi, but wall construction and placement have much more impact. Living in a brick house, they’re pretty shit. I’ve switched to non gamified wifi AP’s connected to ethernet and the wifi’s been great. Still prioritize wired wherever possible though.
Used to live in a 2 story house built in the 1900’s. It had plaster & lath walls. I ended up with 4 AP’s scattered about before we had decent WiFi coverage.
One of the worst things about those routers other than having generally poor coverage despite looking like a Crown of Thorns was that if you actually took advantage of the more advanced features like VLANs, port forwarding, static routes, FTP and all that stuff and set it up… It inevitably seemed that there was a 99% chance that a firmware update would not allow you to restore a backup of the router config on the updated device!
That happened a couple times, spent days getting everything set up only to find out the firmware update refused to load a config made with an older version. F that. Never used those routers again.
If something looks cool and flashy and has tons of “extra functions” I stay the fuck away from it because I know the target demographic and I know it’s going to be shit in surprising ways.
